351 10 9760 https://caspercollege.cvlcollections.org/files/original/578012ab4388612b22e3098703c79963.jpg 878f7646debad38b6d915ddbdb5e719e Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource My Mom's Casper Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource <a href="http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/NKC/1.0/">http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/NKC/1.0/</a> Date Created Date of creation of the resource. 1908 Description An account of the resource Collection of photographs and postcards of Casper during the quite early twentieth century. Type The nature or genre of the resource Image; text Is Part Of A related resource in which the described resource is physically or logically included. Sheffner-McFadden Collection, NCA 01.v.2024.12 WyCaC US. Casper College Archives and Special Collections. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context NCA 01.v.2024.12_MyMomsCasper Still Image A static visual representation. Examples include paintings, drawings, graphic designs, plans and maps. Recommended best practice is to assign the type Text to images of textual materials. Original Format The type of object, such as painting, sculpture, paper, photo, and additional data Photographic print Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Card from your affectionate son Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource <a href="http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/NKC/1.0/">http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/NKC/1.0/</a> Date Created Date of creation of the resource. 1919 Description An account of the resource Letter from a son to his mom sent in 1919 during his deployment in World War I. Type The nature or genre of the resource Image Language A language of the resource ENG Is Part Of A related resource in which the described resource is physically or logically included. Sheffner-McFadden Collection, NCA 01.v.2024.12 WyCaC US. Casper College Archives and Special Collections. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context NCA 01.v.2024.12_MyMomsCasper_01a; NCA 01.v.2024.12_MyMomsCasper_01b Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource JPG https://caspercollege.cvlcollections.org/files/original/5129b62032ab3fe2e1dfeeba86336176.pdf 37397992cd3329be0612900125e45d60 PDF Text Text ^LINT LOCK PROM FLINT LOCK RIFLE. BUFFALO BULLET AND ARMY SHELL. LOANED BY MIKE ROGERS. JUNE 21 1961. BULLET found NEAR FORT CASPER Donated by Donald Hines � Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Thomas Brady and Harry Willis City Marshal Letters Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource <a href="http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/NKC/1.0/">http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/NKC/1.0/</a> Description An account of the resource This collection contains the digitized letters of two Sheriffs--Thomas Brady (Atlantic City and Lander), and Harry Willis (South Pass City)--that date back to Wyoming statehood. The letters contain pieces of commercial and service-related correspondence, letters from concerned citizens, and historic wanted posters. The material in this collection of letters spans from 1888 to 1933. Type The nature or genre of the resource Text Language A language of the resource ENG Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context SpecColl 01.1888.01 Text A resource consisting primarily of words for reading. Examples include books, letters, dissertations, poems, newspapers, articles, archives of mailing lists. Note that facsimiles or images of texts are still of the genre Text. Original Format The type of object, such as painting, sculpture, paper, photo, and additional data Cards Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Cards for bullet and flint lock artifacts Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/NKC/1.0/ Description An account of the resource Cards for bullet and flint lock artifacts "Flint lock from flint lock rifle. Buffalo bullet and shell. Loaned by Mike Rogers. June 21, 1961." "Bullet found near Fort Caspar donated by Dan Hines." Type The nature or genre of the resource Text Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Mike Rogers, Dan Hines Language A language of the resource ENG Is Part Of A related resource in which the described resource is physically or logically included. Thomas Brady and Harry Willis City Marshal Letters: SpecColl 01.1888.01 Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context SC 01.1888.01_Brady_63 https://caspercollege.cvlcollections.org/files/original/6b9e4276d0a51d54d63c0b610de6cf59.pdf a6c25bc817244370f66863bea9166ae0 PDF Text Text :: Chad Hanson :: In the doctor’s office, they learned the child was a girl. Over breakfast they started to talk about a name. He suggested, “Destiny.” She said, “I think we should call her Careen.”The only way to careen is out-of- control. He came home to an empty house that afternoon. She drove from Maryland to the Mid-Atlantic. She stopped at a saloon. Her eyes lingered on the bottles stacked in rows against the wall. Then she ordered a club soda. A ring of men surrounded a pool table. She wanted all of them. At a bar on the Outer Banks, she sat and worried to herself. She wondered if hungers stay until they are fed. j 82 � Text A resource consisting primarily of words for reading. Examples include books, letters, dissertations, poems, newspapers, articles, archives of mailing lists. Note that facsimiles or images of texts are still of the genre Text. Original Format The type of object, such as painting, sculpture, paper, photo, and additional data Print Journal Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Careen Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource <div id="dublin-core-rights" class="element"> <div class="element-text five columns omega"> <div id="dublin-core-rights" class="element"> <div class="element-text five columns omega"> <div id="dublin-core-rights" class="element"> <div class="element-text five columns omega"> <div class="element-text five columns omega"> <div class="element-text"> <div class="element-text"> <div class="element-text"> <div class="element-text five columns omega"> <div class="element-text five columns omega"> <div class="element-text five columns omega"> <div class="element-text"><a href="http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/InC/1.0/">http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/InC/1.0/</a></div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> Date Created Date of creation of the resource. 2014 Type The nature or genre of the resource Text Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Chad Hanson Language A language of the resource ENG Is Part Of A related resource in which the described resource is physically or logically included. Chad Hanson Journal Publications, CCA 04.ii.e.2025.01 WyCaC US. Casper College Archives and Special Collections. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context CCA 04.ii.e.2025.01_ChadHansonPapers_37 Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource Searchable PDF Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available <em>The Roanoke Review</em> is published by Roanoke College https://caspercollege.cvlcollections.org/files/original/6d1dec1d6ce7020d8a09371e34ef2bf2.jpg 42ff6dd4c2221367cadee43864a57eb6 https://caspercollege.cvlcollections.org/files/original/d20c1064f3507672db6a84bdbdc51ae7.jpg 36d45348604861a3c85069c68f2bc136 Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Works Progress Administration Photographs of Old Fort Caspar Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource <a href="http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/NoC-US/1.0/">http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/NoC-US/1.0/</a> Description An account of the resource This collection consists of 18 digitized copies of photographic prints taken by E.R. Schuler for the Works Progress Administration in 1937. The photographs are of the buildings and grounds at Fort Caspar. The photographs document renovations to the site made by the Civilian Conservation Corps (CCC) who had technical staff in and around Casper during the 1930s. Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Works Progress Administration Is Part Of A related resource in which the described resource is physically or logically included. The unofficial Natrona County Archives City of Casper holdings of the Casper College Western History Center's special collections. In particular, this collection is organized and stored within a range of small collections of one or more photographs. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context NCA 01.iii.2020.01_WorksProgress_FortCaspar Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource JPG Extent The size or duration of the resource. 1.70 Megabytes (36 access files) Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Works Progress Administration Photographs of Old Fort Caspar, NCA 01.iii.2020.01 WyCaC US. Casper College Archives and Special Collections. Still Image A static visual representation. Examples include paintings, drawings, graphic designs, plans and maps. Recommended best practice is to assign the type Text to images of textual materials. Original Format The type of object, such as painting, sculpture, paper, photo, and additional data Photographic print Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Caretakers Cabin Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource <a href="http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/NoC-US/1.0/">http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/NoC-US/1.0/</a> Date Created Date of creation of the resource. 1937-09-37 Subject The topic of the resource Fort Caspar (Wyo.) Description An account of the resource Photograph of Caretakers Cabin at Fort Caspar. The collection this photograph is a part of consists of 18 photographic prints taken by E.R. Schuler for the Works Progress Administration in 1937. The photographs are of the buildings and grounds at Fort Caspar. The photographs document renovations to the site made by the Civilian Conservation Corps (CCC) who had technical staff in and around Casper during the 1930s. Type The nature or genre of the resource Image Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource E.R. Schuler; Works Progress Administration Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context NCA 01.iii.01_CaretakersCabin_F NCA 01.iii.01_CaretakersCabin_B Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource JPG Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Works Progress Administration Photographs of Old Fort Caspar, NCA 01.iii.2020.01 WyCaC US. Casper College Archives and Special Collections. https://caspercollege.cvlcollections.org/files/original/15b28cc928ed4e6c05a0805313c336ca.pdf e6c89523c8b41e2ee7933f6b4a9c62fc PDF Text Text ��� Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Carey's C.Y. Ranch Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource <a href="http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/InC-RUU/1.0/">http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/InC-RUU/1.0/</a> Date Created Date of creation of the resource. 1931-1932 Description An account of the resource This file contains information about CY Ranch and its owners. The material herein contains correspondence sent to Robert David from Lyons Securities Company of New York, the Employment Security Commision of Wyoming, and David's father. Researchers will find bits of information about the Carey House, scans made from Hunton Diaries, and David's holograph manuscript on the C.Y. Ranch. This material dates to between 1931 and 1932. The Robert “Bob” B. David Collection consists of 50 dismantled scrapbooks that cover a wide range of topics about Wyoming and the American West from prehistoric times to the mid-twentieth century. Several scrapbooks were dedicated to David’s investigation and research of the 1897 “Hole-in-the-Wall Fight” and the Johnson County War, which include interviews with the prominent and local individuals involved. Early scrapbooks feature David’s research about the Dinwoody and Castle Garden areas of Wyoming. Research notes, proofs, and drafts of two of Robert David's best-known books, "Malcolm Campbell, Sheriff" and "Finn Burnett," are included in the collection. The collection also contains Robert David's extensive personal diaries, letters and correspondence, memoirs, and “excerpts.” Some diaries and correspondence belonged to Robert David’s immediate family members, particularly his father Edward Taft David. The collection contains 12 boxes of photographs and snapshots from throughout the collection and several pieces of furniture provided by the David family. Type The nature or genre of the resource Text Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Robert B. David; Lyons Realty Securities; Employment Security Commission of Wyoming; Edward T. David Language A language of the resource ENG Is Part Of A related resource in which the described resource is physically or logically included. Robert "Bob" B. David Historical Collection, NCA 01.v.1987.02 WyCaC US. Casper College Archives and Special Collections. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context NCA 01.v.1987.02_CareyCYRanch Text A resource consisting primarily of words for reading. Examples include books, letters, dissertations, poems, newspapers, articles, archives of mailing lists. Note that facsimiles or images of texts are still of the genre Text. Text Any textual data included in the document Text Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Carey Ranch was started here 1872 Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource <a href="http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/InC-RUU/1.0/">http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/InC-RUU/1.0/</a> Date Created Date of creation of the resource. 1872 Subject The topic of the resource David scrapbook 6 Description An account of the resource Information about the Carey Brothers Ranch started in 1872 Type The nature or genre of the resource Text Language A language of the resource ENG Is Part Of A related resource in which the described resource is physically or logically included. CY Ranch and Joseph M. Carey, NCA 01.v.1987.02_CareyCYRanch. Robert "Bob" B. David Historical Collection, NCA 01.v.1987.02 WyCaC US. Casper College Archives and Special Collections. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context NCA01.1987.V.02_CareyCYRanch_ScrapB_06 Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource PDF https://caspercollege.cvlcollections.org/files/original/9217dcab742019fc2ef25a69300d1ba7.pdf 3968476deca40efc2f43c0fc816d8909 PDF Text Text THE COMPANY WILL APPRECIATE SUGGESTIONS FROM ITS PATRONS CONCERNING ITS SERVICE >------------------- 1201-S SYMBOLS Class of Service DL " This is a full-rate Telegram or Cable­ gram unless its de­ ferred character is in­ dicated by a suitable symbol above or pre­ ceding the address. Letter NM = Night Mcsssge R. B. WHITE PRESIDENT UNION NEWCOMB CARLTON CHAIRMAN OP THE BOARD ML = Night Letter LC = Deferred Cable NLT = Cable Night Letter J.C. WILLEVn FIRST yiCE-PRESIOEWT . Ship Radiogram . The filing Hma shown in the date line on telegrams and day letters is STANDARD TIME at point of origin. Time of receipt is STANDARD TIME.al, point of deetmatioa. 1937 JUL 10 M 7 Received at 138 North Center St., Casper, Wyo. VA12 49/51 NLLOGAN MONT 9 ROY B 17 MINTY a. HENNING HOTEL BLDG CASPER WYO» HAVE FOR IMMEDIATE SALE TWO HUNDRED FIFTY YEARLING ROMNEY RAMBOULETTE CROSS BRED RAMS MACHINE SHEARED IN APRIL WILL ' WEIGH HUNDRED TWENTY FIVE POUNDS NOW STOP THESE RAMS ARE ' OUTSTANDING QUALITY OUT IN FRONT OF EVERYTHING I KNOW OF STOP LOAD EITHER N P OR MILWAUKEE PRICE FIFTEEN DOLLARS NET ANSWER WESTERNUNIONS ‘ “ E H CHURCHWELL. MINTY N P, THERE IS NO DEreSDAJ FOR WESTERN UNION TTT.T �1206-A DOMESTIC CABLE TELEGRAM FULL RATE DAY LETTER DEFERRED NIGHT MESSAGE NIGHT LETTER NIGHT LETTER SHIP RADIOGRAM Patrons Gboald check class of serrlee desired; otherwise meaaa^ will be tranamittad as a foil-rate I_____ cc^TTinnieaHon. WESTERN UNION R. B. WHITE RRBSIDaNT NEWCOMB CARLTON CHAIRMAN OP THE BOARO J. C. WILLBVER P1RST VICE-PRESIBEMT Send the foUaaing message, suiject to the terms on back hereof, which are hereby agreed to THE QUICKEST, SUREST AND SAFEST WAY TO SEND MONEY IS BY TELEGRAPH OR CABLE �July 13, 1957 Mr. Fiaher p« Weaver Wolf, Wyoming My dear Jacks * since last seeing you in Casper I have had an Interview with Mrs. Robert Carey. She had just returned from the east where she had gone to attend her son’s graduation from Yale, and later, his wedding. She was much Interested In securing the data necessary to submit you for future reference. Ihe Cheyenne Office will forward, in a day or so, plats and all information with reference to water rights, deeded land, leased lands, etc. Wliea it arrives I will forward same to you. Mrs. Carey stated that the asking price was ^60,000*00 which figures approximately $5.00 per acre for the entire property, which means there are about 50,000 acres of deeded land. Mrs. Carey also stated that while this is the asking price, it does not mean that they will not consider a less price. The week end of July 24th will be the only week end that she will be at the ranch until later in the fall. She will be very glad indeed to have you and Mrs. Weaver spend that time at the ranch! that you may drive over the pi*operty and whex-e It la impossible to drive, ride horse back, and see It with your own eyes, that you may have "first hand * impreeaion. If this meets with your approval, I would su^^gest that If you come, that you bring your saddles along * foi’ in the event you want to rid© - you will find them mor© comfortable tlian ranch saddles, which of cuui’s© could be provided for you and Mrs* Weaver. I talked wltli Mrs* Carey about photographs, also, and there will be numerous pictures, which wox*e taken on the ranch, accompanying the plat. �COPY Mr. Fisher P. Weaver Page With kindest personal regards, I am Youv's very truly. RBM/h ROY B. MINTY �JOSEPH M. CAREY, PscsioKNT' W.E.MULUEN.Vice PpeSiecMT KARL. B. AXT. SECRETArtY ELIZABETH M. CAREY, A*aT. SccRETARY U.M.eAREYSt BROTHER bNCOPPQftATEOl CH EVE NNE^WVOMING July 16, 1957 Mr. Roy Minty % Henning Hotel Casper, Wyoming Dear Sir: Mrs. Carey has just requested rae to give you complete infoiroation with reference to our Careyhurst Ranch property vdiich we are piecing on the market. I am outlining to you herewith the terms under which it will be offered for sale, and I am also enclosing two copies of a prospec­ tus, two maps of the ranch, a list of the equipment thereon, an insurance record of improvements, and a schedule showing existing water rights. > Our price for the ranch is ^260,000.00, this price to include all fanning and ranch machinery, all work horses, all wagons, and ell harnesses. The price does not include the cattle nor such horses as wuld not be included under the category of work horses. However, the purchaser would be given the first opportunity to purchase the cattle and the balance of the horses at a price to be agreed upon. In case of a sale we desire to reserve for ourselves 65% of any royalty income derived by the purchaser or his assigns from oil, gas or other minerals taken from the property. In case of a sale being negotiated through an agent we are pre­ pared to pay a commission of 5% of the sales price of the ranch. We desire to reserve the right to offer the property to other prospects, and in a resulting sale vdiere you would not have con­ tacted the purchaser yourself no commission would be payable to you. This offer will remain in force until Septaaber 1st of this year, and in case you desire additional information and maps of the ranch, please let us know and we shall be glad to supply you with any further data which you may need. Very trulf yours. Secretary. KBA:d Encl. �my 17th, 1957 Mr* £« Clmrohwell Manhattan, ffyoirilng My dear s1p« I have been t2*ylng all Eiomlng to get you on Long Distance, and hope before the day is oven that I will be Buccesaful. 1 have a definite order for 100 head, possible 120 of your cro3s-*blood bucks, I have priced these buclcs to net you $15,C0,wlth a dellvorod price of $17,50 at Chugwater, Wyoraing, If the number is restricted to 100 head If tho number is Increased to 120, it will probably be cheaper to take a 56 foot cor and load both a forty foot oar will accomodate them nicely. decks. The freight rate from Manhattan to Chug* water is the same on a forty foot as a thirty-six foot «* 52^ per hundredweight} but the minimum on a forty foot car will bo 13,300 as against 12,000 pounds for a thlrty-slx. This letter will probably be more or less repitltion as I expect to talk to you not later than tonight regarding th© above subject, I have an order for 150 head of throe-year old Rambouillet rams. Can you locate such a bunch priced to fit the money? If you car., please wire me. They must be good bucks,In good condition and available for immediate dolivei*y, I am very much Interested In locatln^^ this bunch of Hamboulllets as my buyer is particularly anxious to got them In at once. Yours vexT* truly. RBMtCM �July 17, 1937 Fisher P. Weaver Wolf, V^yoMlSg Dear Jacks - I received th© date, regarding th© Careyhurct ranch herewith enelose^, thdayA. M. X have taken tine, Vefor© forwarding It to you, to look it over end find that X misinformed you In the pi’Qvlous letter as to the total ecreege. X am sorry thia happened, hut X we5 under the Impreaslon that there was at least 60,000 acres of deeded land. The data herewith, however, will clear the matter In your mind. I have found the description of th© property even mor© interesting and attractive than X supposed it was, and X am quite familiar with th© property at that* X am also enclosing herewith copy of letter from the Cheyenne Office, X hope that ou and Tira. Weaver will find it convenient to avail yourselves of the opportunity of spending a week end at Careyhurst while Mrs. Carey is at home* With kindest regards to you and Mrs. Weaver, I am Cordially yours. RBH/h ROY iniCXY �EATONS’ WOLF RANCH WYOMING ___ \I\‘Z <SLnAJ-»A. <rVK Lvv^ «rvvrO lASTM^ A rwlXT tS~~%/vv ^^yjLt-cc, «-u-cSL^ 1/LrV U^-., Vv^.<x^ X't vX;<JULa ^Ap »>«• ’ ‘>-VGt ^AA^Mk^ VvM^4_^— ^»VV* Vj\z» V^amWXS . 'X, P^^v^>-v« O- C^ft-ew \>Jsjx«^XjL4> vasJuLc '^Vwv. • vp VjvvA- Ol^ojuo. oJLAStKX^^ . ��KARL B. AXT, Secaetarv CLIZABCTH H. CAREY, AEST. Secretary JI. M. OARB Y St BROHTHBR I I N CO « FOR AT e D J CHEV’E NNE^WVOMING July 27, 1937 Mr. Roy B, Minty Henning Hotel Casper, Wyoming Dear Mr. Minty: Will you please express to Mr. Robert Grieve the thenks of the Carey estate representatives for his kindness in furnishing us with the Affidavit concerning the C Y Ranch? Very truiy yours yours, Secretary KBA:d �July Slat, 1937 Joseph Carey S: Bros. Estate Cheyenne, Wyoralng » Attentions Mr. Carl B./xt. Dear Mr. Axti I am a little late in aoknovlcdglng receipt of the date forwarded some time a^^o. But this is to advise that it was received in due tine and passed on to those interested. I also received your note with re* Terence to the Affidavit suhnlttod by itr. Grieve. Since receiving the data with refer* ence to Careyhurst, I have had another nan interested, and If it is convenient for your office to do so, 1 would appreciate very much having another plat of Cereyhurst jtliat is the larger one. The snail on© being so snail that my prospective purchaser got little satis faction from studying It, and would like to see one of the larger ones. Very taruly yours. ROY B. MINTY RBM:C» �JOSE PH M CAREY, PacaiDicNT W.E.HULUEN.VieE PwcsiOCnt KARL B.AXT.SecrbtarS- ELIZABETH M. CAREY. ASST SeoRBTAPY U.M.OAREYSt eROTHER (iNCOARCAATEn) CHEV’ENNE, WVOMINQ August 4, 1937 Mr. Roy B, Minty Henning Hot el Casper, Wyoming Dear Mr. Minty: Please find enclosed herewith the additionai plat of Careyhurst which you desire. Please feel free to call on us for any other data i^diich you may need concerning the ranch. Very tiyly yours, Secretary. KBA:d Encl. �August 30, 1937 E. I'. Clnl^chlll Manhattan, TZontana Tear !5p. Churchlll;I am encloalng herewith contract with draft to cover th© deal on the Kjcoiey cross bucks. After Mr, Saul had left the office and returned to Dou^^las I discovered that he had made his heck for $5CX),00 payable to no, I had Intended the check should be node payable to you. You will notice that heve deducted my coianlesloa from th© down payment, believing; as long as th© play camo up th© way It did, thot thia would be aatlsfactory with you Mr. Saul stated that he would advise In the next day or two when he will want these bucks loaded, but It will be In the very near future. Thank you for submitting this bunch to mo, and if anything els© turns up that looks Ilk© a "bargain counter” deal, will be very glad to work on It, Jifter my experience with you and Mr, 'organ earlier In the sumcier, ? am convinced that we can do business without the neceesity of going to ontana to look at anything that you may submit, Persjnally, 1 am very particular in representing anything that I have to offer, or if In my opinion It night prove unsat isfactory, 1 will not subrilt It as 1 would ten times prefer to lose a possible coiunlsslon than to misrepresent fcnythlng to any customer with whom T have been doing business, T am sure that you appirelcate my position In the matter and protect mo against such a possibility, With personal regards, I am Yours very truly. RJY B. MINTY �Manhattan,i-0nt .Sep. 1/37 Mr.Roy B.Minty, Casper, Wyo. Bear Mr.Minty:- Your favor,Aug.30th .with Contract and. Braft Eno.Just received.. As I said, before,we can load, this shipment ajsy time on a few d.ays notice,say two days,as they are Just a little too far away for a one d.ay drive. Our Bank requires that we wire on all drafts drawn when shipment is made so will you please furnish us with information as to what Bank we will draw Braft for Bal.of $2,000,00.this we must have as soon as convenient. We can furnish a load,either single Beck or double deck of Romney-Hamboulette cross bred Yrlgs.extra good quality,load either N.P. or Milwaukee © $22.50 which includes your Com.of one Dollar per head. We also have 40 head of two and three year old liincoln-Ramboulette cross breds,These we own and have on hand,I also know where we can get 50 head more,these all straight three Yr.olds,this would make a single deck,these we could load out to you ©$12.50 Please let us hear from you Pronty.as these 50 head may go any time,these would all be a real good lot. n-et us the information concerning the Draft as soon as you possibly can. Yours very truly, Morgan and .Churchwell, �5Ae BROvdMOOR COLOKADO Springs, Colorado October 13, 0 Mr. Roy Minty Hfinning Hotel Casper, Wyoming Dear Roy; Joseph Clendennin, who is related to the Ryan family, which one I do not Imow, but all of the members of both families seem to have plenty of money. I know in New York the^ man to whom the Qlendennins go for advWe, and who haXk always had charge of their real estate. If the "Garey property interests Mr. Clendennin, the chances are that they will, as usual go for adviee to the man I havd refered to . In any event this is just a shot in the dark. I am taking it for granted you will want to share fifty fifty with me In any brokage that may result from the sale of the ranch. With kindest regards.; Yours sincerely; PW:MAR tlu S JUL, . �October 16, 1957 Ur. .Toeeph Clendezmln Santa Fe, liev Uesdoo Dear Slrt I i^oently hoard through frlende here that you are looking for a ranch In which you can run a large nuszber of cattle* There are vej*y few ranches In th© west that compare with that of the late Senator Robert Carey, whose place Is about thirty-five miles east of Casper* There are about twenty-five thousand aoers owned or controlled* The propez*ty lies In the valley of Dox rider Creek* Its west boundry Is the foot hills of the Laramie Mountain range. The east boundry Is the Platte Elver* Xf you ai*e Interested, Mr* Roy B, Minty, whose offices are In the Henning Hotel at Casper, Wyoming, will furnish you with further particulars* My firm Is the Charles F* Noyes Company of 226 Broadway, Nev York city* For over twenty years I have spent long vacations In Wyoming, Colorado, New Mexico, and Arizona* X have treason to feel tliat I have a pretty good Idea of what constitutes a good ranch* The old timers In the West, such as the families of Senators Warren, Carey, and Kendrick naturally have the opportunity to 8eou]?e th© finest property available* Thia is the first one of a group of such px^opertles that has been for sale within the period of my visits to the est* Yours slneerelyi PWjMAR �Oetober 19, 1957 Mr* Fisher Weaker Broadmore hotel Colorado £prinns> Colorado tear Jaok:I am in receipt of yoiu* favor with th© enclosed copy of your letter to Mr* ClendennIng, While this may be a random shot, one can never tell, it may be a bull’a eye* Of course, I will be very {^lad to share with you in any brokerage that may result in any transaction that w© xaay negotiate, I will assure you that if £ have the op­ portunity, to show a man a property which we might be working on, I will do my utmost* With kindest regards to you and Mrs* Weaver, X am roura very truly. FSK/h FOX B. MIHTX �RANCH Adjudication Based Decrees of the the State NAIvIE OF DITCH of Water Rights on Board of Control of of Wyoming DATE OF DECREE PRIORITY CD. FT. PER SEC. ACRES IRRIG. Carey Box Elder Creek No. 5 Oct. 19, 1Q98 1876 4.40 304 Macy No. 2 Oct. 19, 1898 1882 .33 21 Carey Box Elder No. 1 Oct. 19, 1898 May 15,1885 13.40 935 Carey Box Elder No. 2 Oct,. 19, 1898 June 1, 1885 11.70 806 Island Oct. 19, 1898 May 1, 1889 .08 5 Carey Box Elder No. 5 Oct. 19, 1898 Oct.14,1889 2.30 159 Carey Box Elder No. 4 Oct. 19, 1898 Feb. 2,1893 7.15 497 Macy No. 5 Jan. 30, 1915 Sep.27,1895 .71 50 Macy No. 4 Oct. 18, 1898 May 2, 1898 .11 8 Carey Reservoir Ditch Jan. 30, 1915 Oct.30,1901 8.21 575 Enl. Carey Little Box Elder No. 1 Jan.30, 1915 Mar.28,1906 2.67 187 Enl. Carey Reservoir Ditch Jan.30, 1915 June 26,1908 11.80 826 6g>86 4575 �8 0 > RAKCH The machinery end ranch equipaect according to a recent Inventory are listed as follows: 5 trsctori 1 combine 3 dleea 3 grain drills 4 hay steckars 4 hay rakes 3 beet cultivators IS beet vagons 3 hay loaders 6 freaooes 35 sets harness 1 Tord pickup 3 Martin ditchers Shop Equipment case separator 4 tractor plows 7 ■owing machines 4 horse mowing nachiass 17 sweeps 3 beet drills 3 beet pullers 7 hey racks 8 slips 8 farm wagons 1 Chevrolet truck 1 land leveller 1 road grader 1 �Noveaibev IS, 1937 Morgen & Churchssrell Manhattan, Montana Oentleaiens • I am enclosing herewith zaemorondna of our last buck deal with the X«a Bonte Live Stock Company. You, no doubt, have over-looked this iontter due to the activities ol‘ tlie fall season. X have an inquiry today for seventy-five (75) of half-blood Lincoln Kcuabouilloto, yearling preferx*ed, but can take older ones, have you anything In mind that you can quote me. With personal regards, X aa Yours very truly, HfiU/h Enol KOX b. MINTY �CHARLES F. NOYES COMPANY, INC. 225 BROADWAY NEW YORK CITY November 30th 19 3 7 Roy B. lUnty, Esq., Henning Hotel, Casper, Wyoming. Dear Roy: I never heard from Kr. J’oseph Clendenin of Santa 5*e with respect to the Carey Ranch. I an going to send hin a description of the property and also find out v/hether or not he is in Hew York. If he is I shall try to see hin here. Is there any reason v/hy I shouldn’t advertise the property, at our expense, or, better still, would the Garey family authorize $100.00 worth of adver­ tising? There is a distinct tendency on the part of rich eastern people to buy western land as a hedge against the un­ certainties of our political situation. b'ith kindest wishes to you end your friend Bill, I an Sincerely yours. Fisher P. Weaver s P. S. In one of your letters you pronised to send rie photographs. It is much easier to interest people with pic­ tures than it is with a printed description. F.P.W �I>©ceinber JB, 1037 Mr, Fisher ?. Weaver S25 Broadway New 7ork ^Ity, M.Y, Dear Jaokt «» X am Just In receipt of your favor of the 30th and note carefully your comment with reference to Careyhurst. Youi* suggestion to spend $100 to ad* vortlse this property, I think. Is a vei*y good one. And, wlillo linrgine ^00 will not roach a great many readers, yovi ^lay know of some publication with a omnll olreulatlon tliut will reach the prospective buyers of a property of this sort mor© readily than a publication vdth a very large olreulatlon which would cost a lot r’cre money. But If in your Jud(pnent, $100 will do us any good, I say go ahead, and if After vTTltlng the Carey Estr.te, which I am doing this wming, they are not inclined to go on th© proposition azid do not send a •ehbch for same, then I will remit my half of th© amount to you. I was und®r the ImpreBsion from our conversation last summer that you thought photogra;;hs would b© of no partlcule# benefit, my reason for not producing same. However, I am writing thia mozming for negatives of various acenes about tb© ranch to incltid^ the roaldenoo, yard, ©3.1 th© bitildings, the lakes, plctiu'es of U'ffalo and antelope, etc. If I am ablo to Bocui*o thesd negatives, X will have them enlarged in an album or hf ve then mounted on cards and tied together to make them rttractiv© as possible Tliere sliould be some very beautiful plctidBes of the ranch available as a great many beautiful �Sir* Fisher ?• Weaver Page Two I will get these to you at the earliest possible moment* With kindest regards to both you and Mrs* Weaver* 1 am Sincerely* RO.c B* MIRTX RBM/li �December 6, 1937 Jt M. & Brother Cheyenne, Wyoming Actn •• Mr* Carl Axt Dear Mr, Axti* Heletive to oiir oorrespondenee and ccnvera* tlon regajMlng Careyhurst. This A. ;.i, 1 am in receipt of e letter froisi Kew York fisklng for photogropho taken on the ranch, preferrably in the summer time when things are so beautiful. If you have or can secure negstives to Include plctui’cs o? the bouse, yer^, the buildings the office, of the lakes end the buffalo. In feet, a);yt}'Aag that you think might be of interest to a pi*ospec'uivo pui’chceer In the east to whom this pro­ position will cepecinlly tppoftl If properly pi’esented, I will be very glad to ir ve then as they will go far in Intorosting prospects. V/ith personal regardB to you and Joe, X am Your*© truly. ROY B. MXNTY RBM/h �Leceiiiber 6^ 1957 Messrs* Ilor^an £s Chxirchwell Maiihattan^ Montana Oentlemon:* I have been anticipating a reply to ay reeont letter to you referriiig to ©<»»• mission due me on sale of bucks to La Honte I»ivo stock Coup any. Will you please do rao the favor of ensvering said letter. Yours very truly. tomA ROY B, UXKOT �CHARLES F. NOYES COMPANY, iNC. Copy to Hoy 13. Ilinty, Esq., Henning Hotel, Casper, Wyoning. Deoenbor 7th 19 3 7 3’oaoph Clendenin l-4teetamn-4^1aoe > Hew-Yogi;, H. Xw Doug Clendenin; On OQtobor iota, 1Q07 1 addressed He Xi up wit roape^t to e then Hobez & Carey doc oril^tion liulir g to you w th lie If you ago SOI lously thl ing its ^vm R fine p3 oporty and ontj vljlch -^Yill p wny but x^loh on the o-1 hoi hand wll roquig oonniderr bio ottentlon thqn and Inyihat oven I ro(5onM< nd ngaln the ar a: aooiatod with the I have bo es r Koyna Gonji y, Xnc. for thirty nn< nsBooiftteB in Kew and lur oontao Volvo ru ng o‘ hero Hr. Hobert E City od no^e or less as an ns x/ling, v/h adviser to the van Estate. TFithout <tny desire to i>est©r you with sonothing xfhioh you zifjy not ii/tint I nn again calling your attention to this property booause if it is true that you do want a fine ranch then there is nothing tiuit I know of like this one. Very truly yours. Eiaher P« Vieuver a �JOSEPH M.CAHEV, *. E.MULLEN,Vict President KARL B. AXT, SeCRETART- ELIZABETH M. CAR CY, ASST. SECRETARY U. M.O>^AEY8( BROTHER (I N GO R POP AT E D J CH EVE NNE,WYOMING December 8, 1937 Mr. Eoy B. Minty Henning Hotel Casper, Wyoming Dear Mr. Minty: I am pleased to send you herewith a few of the photographs of Care^urst which may serve your pur­ pose. With kind personal regards, Secretary. KBA:d Bid. �CHARLES F. NOYES COMPANY, INC. 228 BROADWAY New YORK CITY Deoeraber 10th. 19 3 7 Roy B. Minty, Esq., Casper, Wyoning. Dear Roy: It raay be that I said sonething about not sending photographs but If so I now talce it back. I have discussed the place with several of ny associates and all of then are interested even though none has ever sold a ranch or even a house. Their line is business buildings, apartment houses and hotels of sub­ stantial size. I like the newspapers for adver­ tising. In ny opinion magazines of the type of "Spur" are a total loss. Advertising in the "Tines" andTIerald-Tribune" of the type we use is inexpensive and reaches a nillion and a half people. V/hatever we do I will keep you posted. With kindest wishes always. Sincerely yours, Fisher P. ’.leaver cs �December X5> 19S7 / Mr. Fisher 225 Hew York, K. Y» Dear JackI I Just received yotir favor of th© tenth* I «m very sorry that I have been delayed in for-werdii^ic the photojx*aphB, but as X sjn prepax*in<s "^hat X believe will be a very attractive album, fine tliafc It will take a little luore time thaxi X ej^octed* X have secured scmie very beautiful photo<;rapha of th© rarich, but as they were various sises, I took up the ncjativec and X a., lutvinr; a all of one siae v/hich, of coui’se, will be more at­ tractive wuntod in an album. X oallcd up the plioto.-jrapnor thia 'loming and lie advised th«t h© had o^'dered special paper by wire several days c.i?:o, but that it hud not e.i’rivod. Hovzover, he vae er^cpectlix^ it to come tn today end as he has evexv^hinr^ ready to prSjat th© pJzoto^rs^hF and such data that X have siibmltted to him, it will ta'.co 0X11;^^ a day or tvzo to hiVo it 5-n the taall* X not e carefully bov; you feel about advertlalns this nxatter* Xt is entirely up to you. Jack, wiiatever you do, of course, will be 0. K. with m. Who,t we are after Is roeults and there la no question but rhat yci.i -enow better how to eecuro such reaiilts in New York that X possibly could away out her© in ’^7yojjxing. With personal regards, X am Sincerely, hbi’A FOY 3. KTN7Y �HELENA BRANCH REGIONAL AGRICULTURAL CREDIT CORPORATION OF SPOKANE. WASHINGTON IN REPLY REFER TO DIVISION OF FARM CREDIT ADMINISTRATION MONTANA Manhattan,}^ont .Dec • 15/37 lir.Roy B.Minty, Casper,Wyo• i^ear I^.i^inty:- I have Just now returned, from S.Bak.have been down there since the latter part of Sep.,am sorry that your letters v/ere held, here,hut they v/ere expecting me home for quite awhile before I arrived. Kegarding your letters,! have thi'ee of them hef#ore me. There must have been some misunderstanding somewhere. As you probally know,ilr.^aul,of the LaBonte L.S.Co. was not satisfied with the last purchase of busks, that is,the 200 head that we bargained for to him, through you,did not Moat the requirments at the price he had quoted,we did a lot of bargaining and I want to say that he was fair and a nice man to deal with, however,he finally made us an offer,which would not keep us whole on the deal and pay you the $1,00 one Bollar Cogi. ,we told him this and he agreed to settle with you if we accepted his offer which wedid. For fear that I had forgotten,! made a trip out to see Mr.Morgan yesterday and without telling him ! had heard from you ! asked him if he had any recol­ lection as to our agreement with Mr.Saul as to Com. on the buck deal and be said Just the same,that he, Mr.Saul had agreed to settle with you for same. We had a very unsatisfactory season here,loaded up on a big snag of aged ewes,as near as I can figure now we lost about $1250.00 on the seasons work,of course you know,wee’l make it back next year. Hoping that this explanation is satisfactory and with the seasons Greetings,! ejn. Yours very truly. For l/organ and #Churchwell. �Deal* Royi They asked me how much X had paid down on Buck deal* After allowing them my contract which showed $500. down pay, said they had reev’d $500 which auto­ matically give you your oomlsslon on the original deal* X refused to take the bucks for the single They asked for a bld, I said 1 didn’t care for the bucks at all* Later, on tlie way back they mentioned some 90 head of other buck’s that could be examined on way back to town. reason they were 5'8 and 4*8 and not S'a and 5'8. After looking at these X made them a bld on all the bucks including some they guaranteed to be S'8 at ano tiler station. After talking; It over among themselves, agreed to take my offer, providing no more oommlsslon was to be paid as they said they would have to give certain money for the 90 head and couldn't afford to pay you anything on the 90* X merely stated that X couldn't see where you oould possibly expect any oommlsslon on something you knew nothing about or that I had never discussed with you and that I felt certain enou ;h from my view point to agree to pay any commission. If you demanded one, only on the 90 or rather 89 I received. Unless, as 1 stated to them, they had XXated these 90 head with you. They assured me they hadn't and in fact X believe tliey had to buy a part of these bucks after I made tlie deal as they were not shipped together* In fact I waited several days for the 90 head and was not certain when X left Montana that I would get ths-.i at all* When I paid for the bucks I deducted the $500. down pay and gave them a check In full for the balance. X figured the 90 head X had bought were worth f-5* to $7.50 per head more than tlie others and vesry frankly admit that hadn't X paid $500 on deal would never have touched the others. My opinion proved out for X finally had to give In this fall and sell the 90 head and li»ep 90 of the others. � https://caspercollege.cvlcollections.org/files/original/9490a84419a50f6821caf7e443e29f2a.pdf 160f6820816ac3195f9a19e15bacae13 PDF Text Text CHARLES F. NOYES COMPANY. INC. 22S BROADWAY NEW YORK CITY February 7th 19 3 8 Roy B. Minty, Ssq., Casper, Wyoming. Dear Roy: We are anxious to find out what we can do with the Carey Ranch. In addition to a modest adver­ tising campaign vze plan to send a letter to the members of the New York Stock’Exchange and perhaps to those of other nearby exchanges in other cities. The point that we shall stress will be the uncertain political situation and the fact that Mr. Raskob and others have bought large acreages in the west - land, coal, wood, cattle and all necessities that really count. VZe get many western properties for sfile from people whom we do not know. To me the average western ranch is almost impossible to sell in the east. On the other hand the Carey place really is something. You promised to send me an album of photo­ graphs. I should like to have it in time to show to people who may inquire as a result of the work which we plan to do. Please be sure that if we do arrange a sale there will be no question about a commission. If, even in the most remote way, someone through our work buys the property I should like to be paid. That is a fixed custom here in Nev/ York City. With kindest wishes from both of us. Fisher P. VZeaver �I' CHARLES F. NOYES COMPANY, INC. 228 , 1938. BROADWAY New YORK CITY March Sth 19 3 8 sibility ■ Roy B. Minty, Esq., Casper, Wyonlng. Bear Roy; I have not heard fron yon in a long tine. Please give ne the present status of the Carey property. The enclosed nenorandun is fron Mr. Ralph Highill, who is in charge of our Country Departnent and who is the only one in the office who has ever sold large country estates. He has a much better understanding of the requirenents of such procedure than I have. Your delay in answering ny last letter has been disturbing because I have naturally won­ dered whether or not you have been sick. In any event, please drop no a line and let ne know hov/ things stand at present. Sincerely yours, K Of Stokes tort, he sale. k^be of roparty• Fisher P. Weaver s Enclosure �Mr.-' 5’. P. .Weaver: A You spoke to me the other day, asking my opinion as to the possibility of our selling the "Careyhurst Ranch" located in Converse County, Wyoming. While it is very difficult to dispose of a property of this size, due to the present market conditions, I believe that Hew York would be the place tOfcontact a wealthy man who would be interested. Our connections here in Hew York would warrant our endeavors In that direction. ^should we undertake the sale and spread information regarding the property, it woula be only f^ir )that the exclusive sale of the property should be inv*=»st*’d with the Charles F. Noyes Co. for a period of one year J This involves a payment by the owner of 5;o commission should we make the sale and an extra 2-^ to our company provided a sale is made through any other broker or by the owner personally. This permits our company to pay the full 5% commission to any other broker effecting a sale, and spurs the effort of an outside broker. If such an arrangement was not made by our company with the owner of the ranch, some other broker might hear of the offering and go direct to the owner, and we would not figure in the commission. The above plan is one which is usually employed in our handling of such properties as the Charles E. Redford Estate, l.N. Phelps iijtokes Estate, the Starbuck Estate and others. We would use every effort, with expenses subject to your approval in the furtherance of the sale. We would also need photographs and all information whiph mighh be of assistance. I suggest that ybu take this matt ar up with the owner of the property. �March Joseph Carey & Brother Cheyenne, Wyoming 1038 Estate Attn - Mr* Karl B* Axt Dear Mr* Axts « Joe has probably advised you of the albumn containing information and photographs of Careyhurst that we had hoped to have long before this* I am sorry to advise you that it is "still in the making", and because of my long absence from the office this matter has been more or less neglected* I am now tn receipt of a letter from my connection in New York making a very urgent request for these photographs, so have decided to forward a group of pictures and follow up later with the albumn if our artistic friend, Tom Carrigan, ever gets it completed* In my letter from New York, Mr* Weaver states that they h vo started a campaign to contact what they may consider prospective buyers for Careyhurst which may drag over a period of time* And, in this connection he has asked me to secure a letter from your office arranging definitely for the payment of a dommission in the event of a sale and that there be no misunderstanding should we com* plete this deal* I am going to ask you to write me a letter quoting your letter of July 16, 1937 as followsI "In case of a sale be negotiated tlirough an agent we are prepared to pay a commission of 5% of sale price of the ranch"* I would like to have this at youi' earliest convenience, Mr Axt, that we may put it on record in New York city, for as he advised, they did not like to proceed andhave this matter come up later* �Joseph Csrey It Bro Estate Page Two with personal regards to you and Joe> Z an Yours truly, ROY B. MIHTY RBM/h �March 7th, 1958 Ux*. Fisher ?• Weaver 225 Broadway ^ork city, N. .. Dear Jack! * To pick up the loose ends st this late date seems like quite a task, but X will at least make an ai'fort to tie thma together* 1 have been absent from the orfioe for just about eight weeks because of what the Doctor is pleased to call a heart attack. Probably, had it never been I’or tills attacx, i never would have known that 1 had a heart, but after this experience X feel so well posted that if there is anything tiiat you would like to know, I am very oonl'ident that I am qxialified to advise* X am feeling pretty good again now and am just trying to get i own to earth and '"get going”. 1 have oeen uiuch disappointed in not being able to forward you the album containing the pictures and InX’ormation ox Gareyhurat about v/hioh I wsTOte you sometime ago, but the man wiio hae been preparing It is a dreaming, artistic sort of a follow who SGoma to find it very difficult to apply his artistic ability in any on© direction long enough to complete the job. however, X still have hopes tiiat because he has proceeded so far with it, that 1 will bo able to forward same to you In the near future. Xn the meantime, X am forwarding today under separate cover a group of plotux*os v/hich will give you or anyone interested a voi*y good idea of the height and expanse of tills ranch* Xn your favor of February 7th, X not© you refer to commission in the event of a sMie and i am writing the Carey Company i^gnrding th© matter �Page Two Mr. Fisher ?• Weaver 30 that lb’ w© Guccoed with this proposition* there will be no argwient about consalsslon* youra©If* With beat v/lahes to Ura. Weaver and I an Yours truly* Fau/h R. B. MIHTY �Mazrh 8, 1958 Mr. Fisher ?. Weaver 825 Broadway Mow Zork Clty^ I). Z. Pear Jacks * X am very sorry Indeed that my Illness has slowed tlrlnja down and that you have not had all the Inf oration you required at hand. You may be assured t-infe in the future I will keep you promptly posted. As I advlaed in my letter yesterday I wrote the Carey j’Jstnte at Cheyenne with reference to the commission, and later in the day Mrs. Csu’ey was in the office and in dlsoussinj the ranch sale, or possible ranch sale, I infomed hrs. Carey that I had written th© office In Cheyenne with reference to the commission and a definite statement concemlng same. She assured me there would be no question about It. I am following up :iny letter to the Garey Company this mornlnj with another and I am enclosing yow letter with the copy of Hr. Mlshlll»s letter, as note, at the time the extra c mmlsslona forward these letters for your recoj^do lately upon receipt. T In my letter yesterday advising; you of the photographs I was forwarding you unc’er separate cover, ® meant when I statedIn the meantime, X aiii foi*warding todav under separate cover a group of pictures which will give you or anyone Interested a very good Idea of the height and expanse of this ranch.” What I meant by ’’height" Is beyond me. I imagine that X am not quite as active mentally as I tliought I was, but knowing me as you do, perhaps you will overlook It, and possibly work out a solution, for X freely admit that X can’t. �Mr. Flaher ?, Weaver Page Two With kindest personal regards to you and Mrs. Weaver^ X am Sincerely yours^ kbhA imol ROX B. MXHTX �March 8, 1933 Joseph Carey & Brother Estate Cheyexme^ ^yooliig Dear Mr. Axti * Since writing you yesterday I am In receipt of further correspondence from New York with ref; rence to the Gareyhurst ranch which I am enclosing herev/ith. iVlll you please at your earliest convenience attend to this that I may got the lnfox*matlon to Now York as they are appax*entXy hoping to do something with lt» With personal regards^ I am Yours very truly. RB6IA HOY B. MINTY �CHARLES F. NOYES COMPANY. INC. S2S BROADWAY New YORK CITY March 25th 19 3 8 Roy B. Minty, Esq., Henning Hotel, Casper, Wyoiaing. Dear Roy; It is too bad that you have had to be sick. No one can tell me very much about being laid up for even such a short tine as two months. Business here is very bad. That is one good reason 'vdiy I hope to attract eastern people to Wyoming. Before we spend a considerable sum of our own money, I should like to have a very definite understanding with you or with the Carey Estate with respect to what we shall be paid if, as and when a sale occurs either thru our efforts directly or indirectly. VZe do no end of work on property. All of it costs money. In an average year it costs $1,000,000. to run this office. Since the de­ pression began our profits have been less than All of this, of course, is off the record. I believe that we have a chance to sell the Carey place and for that reason Mr. Highill and myself are giving it considerable thought and attention. Lil joins me in sending our very best wishes to you. Sincerely yours. Fisher P. Weaver Sr^ P. S. The photographs you sent are worthwhile but I would like to have something better of the house. F.P.W �March 28* 1938 Carey Estate Cheyenne, Vvyomlng Attn* Mr* Karl Axt Dear Karli* 1 am juat in receipt of another letter from Hew York with ref er ©neo to the Carey Estate. They are apparently anxious to get the details of this thing worked out and to quote their letters "Before we spend a considerable num of our own money wo should like to have a definite understanding with you or with the Carey Estate with reference to what wo shall be paid, if, gb and when, a sale occurs either thiraugh our efforts directly or indirectly. V/e do no ©nd of work on property. All of It costa a lot of money." "I believe that wo have r chance to sell the Carey Estate, and for that reason Mr* Mlghlll and nysolf arc glvlns it considerable thought and attention." Relative to our converaatlon, that is, yon and Joo, with refarenoe to this matter, Joo later stated how you felt about entering into an Rfp^eement with reference to this oommisslonj but as the deal seems to be "talcing on heat", I would like very much to get an expression from your office that Z may forward to Now York, With personal regards to you and Joe, I am Yours very truly. RBMA ROY B. MXMTY �.lOSKPH Cl.E.\'I»KNIN, jR. 20 MAHII'OSA DRIVE Santa Barhara, Caeifdhnia March 30th.1938 i/Ir.Roy B.Minty, Casper,Wyoming• Dear Mr.Minty Mr.F.P,Weaver of New York.,has suggested that I ’Write -yoi-i for full particulars regadring the Senator Robert Carey ranch located some thirty-five miles East of Casper. Your kindness in the matter would be greatly appreciated. Very trnly yours �JOSEPH M. CABEV, PRcaissN-r W.E.MULLEN,Vice P«e«iDCnt KARL 8. AXT, SCCRBTAMY ELIZABETH M. CARET, ASST. SbCRCTAPT J.M.CAREYAc BRO"rHieR (ih»CC‘PP'CRATEC> CHEV'E N N Er WYOMING March 30, 1938 Mr. Roy B. Minty Henning Hotel Casper, Wyoming Dear Mr. Minty: Enclosed herewith I am returning the correspondence which you have had with the Charles F. Noyes Company. At the same time I wish to apologize for letting you wait so long for an expression of our opinion with reference to that finals proposals. Estate tax matters have occupied all of my time during the past two weeks. As we see the proposal of Charles F. Noyes Company, in case of a sale negotiated either through them, through any other agent or through our own efforts, the commission payment which we would have to make would he 7^ of the sales price of the ranch. This would mean a 2^ increase over what we had expected to pay in commissions. In view of that fact, it seons to us that we should have some assurance that Charles F. Noyes Company will do some promotion v.’ork that would give some promise of resulting in a sale. Mil you kindly contact them and inquire to what extent they would be willing to work along those lines? Very yours, Secretary. KBA:d Encl. �8, 18&Q Air Mail Joseph Carey Batata Cheyenne > Wyoming -Ajrt Dear Karli* I received In the same mall with your letter, referring to the eoaailasion in the event of a sale of the ranch, a letter from New York advising me to send full description to Los Angelosj but not to put this matter In the mall imtll X had received definite understanding from your office with reference to the eommlsslon as per Mr. Weaver's letter of March 85th* Mr* Weaver seems quite encouraged because of the fact he has what he considers two and possibly three very good prospects* X am forwarding copy of your letter of March SOth to Mr. weaver. Of course, X know nothing as to the action he will take, but It Is apparent they are making every effort to move this property* Xt seems too bad so much time must be consummed In getting this matter definitely settled, but It seems now since your expression contained In your letter of Meiroh SOth, that you will do nothing until we hear from Mew York| with the result that X will have to hold the photographs and descriptive matter to Los Angeles. X am going to need several of the large photo* static maps of Caroyhurst. Will you please advise where these are obtalnsblet X am foxwarding this alxnaall, of course, to Mew fork* With personal regards to you and Joe, I am fours very truly. rbmA ROf B. MXNTf �April 8t 1958 ...... Mr> Fisher P» Weaver 286 ^^edvar Now York City, N.Y. Dear Jaoki « X am enoXoslng hdx*owlth a letter just received from the Carey Estate i*eferring to the matter oT commission* I have already advised the Cheyenne offlee that you are making every effort and spending con* slderahle time axid money to make sone disposition of this property! but in conversation with him ten days ago he stated that they had a prospect in Minneapolis which seemed at least favorable and were rather reluctant to commit themselves with your firm for the stated 7t percent commission. However, X believe that a letter from you stating fully what you are doing will straighten this matter out, and a letter will soon be forth­ coming from Cheyenne which will take care of ths matter of commission. 1 am also In receipt of a letter from Mr. Clendenin at 20 Mariposa Drive, Santa Barba, California, asking for full particulars regarding the Senator Robert Garey Ranch. 1 am forwarding forwarding group of pictures together with map and full description. Xt just seems Impossible to get anything done and the only thing one can do la to keep hammer­ ing sway. With kindest regards to you and Mrs. Weaver, X a» Sincerely yours. RBU/h ROY B. MINTY �April 2« 1998 Air Kall Mr* (Joseph Clendenin SO Karlposa Driver Santa Barbat California Dear Mr. Clendenlns « Z am Just In receipt of your favor date of Mareh SOth, and In reply vlah to advise I will 3et this descriptive matter to you on Monday’s air aali« Careyhurst, la my opinion. Is the most attractive ranch In Wyoming. While It Is a very large property and represents a large Investment, It has always been operated at a profit by the Carey Intex^ests* It Is boautlfxxlly located, bounded on the south by the Laramie Mountains which affords excel­ lent summer range for livestock, and on the north by the Platte Fiver which valley furnishes winter feed and shelter for livestock. The main house on the ranch Is most attractive, very old, of course, but one of the old rambling stone houses with ample room for everything. Further description hei*e Is probably un­ necessary as the printed matter which I will forward to you goes Into great detail In describing the property. Thanking you for this Inquiry, Z on Yours very truly. rbuA HOY B. MISTY �April 4« X9M Air Mall Mr. ^Joseph ciendenla M Mariposa Drive Santa Barbara* California Z^ar Mr« Clendenlnt - I am setting out on air mall today such descriptive ;matter regarding Coreyhurst as I believe youw 111 find of Interest. In reading thia descriptive matter over I notice the prlcO' Is not stated* and while it la in my mind, their asklaag price la Wen ($10.00) Dollars per acre on to*000 aox*es» In the event ox* a sale they vlll give you clear title to the entire 26*000 acres Including such land as has been purchased under oonti*aot. If you f Ind thia of Interest and wish to retain these photograph* you are most welcome to do so, if on the other hand* you are not suf­ ficiently Interested* I vlll appreciate vei*y mueh having th© photographs returned because of the expense of getting out so nny sets. I tiuat you vlll find them lntex*estlng* however* and that I may have the pleasure of driv­ ing you over this property in the near future. After the first of May* with reasonable amount of moisture, this Is a very beautiful country and I can assure that even though tho property does not suit you* you vlll enjoy very much going over and inspecting It. Yours very truly. BBM/h BOX B* MIKTX �CHARLES F. NOYES COMPANY. INC. 22e BROADWAY New YORK CITY 19 6th 3 8 Roy B. Minty, 2sq., Henning Hotel, Casper, Wyoiaing. Dear Roy: I an sending you part of a letter written by us to Charles S. Bedford, 30 Rockefeller Plaze, one of the Standard Oil group. He recently paid us a connisslon for selling the property at Duane, New York even though an­ other broker helped us to put through the deal. "Charles E. Bedford, Esq., 30 Rockefeller Plaza, New York City. Dear Mr. Bedford: Following our recent conversation, and after consideration it would seem advisable that we get started as soon as possible on your Adirondack property, located at Duane, New York. My idea is that after correspondence with your caretaker, to go up sometime in April. May I outline in this letter my sug­ gestions to you for your approval. It is our understanding that we are to conduct all negotiations for tiie sale of the property, subject to the payment to us of the regular rate of coramission as established by the Real Estate Board of five per cent (5%); that you will refer to us all inquiries received by you for the sale of the property, whether from prospective pur­ chasers or other brokers, and that in the event it is found advantageous to effect a sale of the property through the cooperation of another broker that in such case you will pay an additional onehalf regular commission so that we may be in a position to offer and pay the cooperating broker a full commission and retain the extra half com­ mission for our services in connection with the sale. This co-broker commission arrangement Is essential in order to accomplish the full coopera- �CHARLES F. NOYES COMPANY. INC. 820 BROADWAY NOW YORK CITY Roy B. liinty, Esq,. April 6th, 1938 2. tion of all broJcers, as Invariably their Interests and efforts are directed to propositions where they may be compensated on a full commission basis* The best efforts of our organization will be exerted to accomplish a satisfactory sale of these premises for you. This agreement is to continue in effect from the date of your acceptsmce, as indicated by your signature below, to March 10, 1938, This letter which will constitute our agreement, is being sent in duplicate and we will thank you to sign and date one copy, where indicated, and return to us. Very truly yours, CHARLES E. NOTES COMPANY, Inc. R. S. TTighill Country Department RSM/ng Enclosure" In your letter to me your people seem to have the idea that v/e wanted a brokerage of V/hat we want is thls,- 1. 5% if we sell the property ourselves. 2. if the property is sold through some other broker during the period during which we have been retained as exclusive brokers. There Is a great deal involved in selling any piece of real estate. And every broker has to do a great deal of work for wlilch he receives little if any credit. Properties like the Carey Ranch are not just sold without a great deal of work being done by someone except once in a blue moon. letters. As you know, I have written Mr. Clendenin several He has not replied to any of them. But as you say �CHARLES F. NOYES COMPANY, INC. 22S BROADWAY NEW YORK CITY Roy B. Mnty, Esq. April 6til, 1938 3. in your letter of April 2nd he has now asked you for full particulars. That is just a sample of the vzay things go in our business. In normal tines we do not have anything like that happen but with respect to country property we do have it happen almost every month in the year. I<r. Clendenin is a buyer. I know that from friends who know him both in Santa Fe and in New York. Kay 1 suggest to you that you treat him with extreme dignity but at the same time put yourself out to explain that the Ranch itself can be made to ma3:e money and a good living regardless of the political situation and other factors which are harrassing people of wealth in the East and else­ where. Once again may I say that I am distressed with respect to the trouble you have had. Lil joins me in very best wishes for everything that may be good and happy. Very truly yours, Fisher P. Weaver s �April 23, 1938 Mr. } iaher ?• Feavor 226 liroodway !'-w xork i-i* rear v«oki •• Fonlying to your letter of April Gth, i have gone over tliiw taattar very cax’afuily Jind In f<reai; detail with t3w Cax-oy Interoata, .'?nd they are still reluctant to tic tule px’optrty up vsktcr any definite Agreemeut beoauae of the fuct th&y have other parties iutereeteu* In /act, one party in Jilnnoupolle 16 sc interested that tiiey htkve offex^ed Garey's ^45,000 for fcx option until Jaxiuni'/ lbt| »uid ur» Joe Carey stated tiidy uon*t consider .act proposi* tlon favorably at tiAs tirie. After a good deal of discussion with Jo© and oi'iic© mana ,er from G^eyoiuie, suuceeded, however, in them to aoucxlt thcuaelves on the low price they will accept for this proportyl l‘hoy, of course, would like to ^ct ti'io present aaitin^^ pities, but to make & deal tliey will i^i7h,000 off of tliat px*ioe, bx'ixigiiig it down to u leas 7^ / ooiiualusion, which would .;lve t'uen approximately ii^l52,000, and if they conclude to glwee an option, it will be on thio basis* G17G,O O, 1 seat OU by porosl post a few days ago anotner colfuction of pliotographa, the some as I sent to wx’» clendenniu in Callfox'TXia which, by the way, Mr* Clendenning returned to toe yesterday without any comuout* 1 have boon oxpeutin<j a letter to follow* �Mr* Fisher P« Weaver Page Two Xf, in your opinion, there is a o'lanoe to put over a deal on thia new price baaia, X would like to be so edvlaodi nr,d li; oonolusion will state that if you need another set of piotux*ea, I have thou ready to forward* \yith kindest regax*ds to you and Mrs* Weaver, X aa Zours very tJPUiyi RUM/^h WiY MXNTX �CAREYHUROT Il^CH Careyhurst (or as it is known among live stock men, the S 0 Ranch) is located in Converse County, Wyoming, about 35 miles east of Casper, and 18 miles west of Douglas. It is bordered on the west by the foothills of the Laramie Mountain Range and on the east by the Platte River. The Ranch com­ prises most of the fertile valley of the Box Elder Creek which traverses it for eight miles from a point where it emerges from a mountain canyon to where it empties into the Platte. HISTORY; In the early 70’s when there as yet were few ranches in Wyoming and most of the state was open for location, the first settler established his home on Box Elder Creek. This man was John Hunton, one-time friend of Jim Bridger and other famous characters of the early West. Through chang­ ing ownership during the course of which the ranch holdings wore considerably enlarged, it came into the possession of the Carey interests in 1883 and has been owned and managed by them ever since. LAND OWMED AND CONTROLLED; There are approximately 25,000 acres of lands owned or directly controlled at Careyhurst, as follows; \ Deeded land •••..••••••• ** Purchased vuider contract from State of Wyoming. .................. Leased Prom From Prom land State of Wyoming ... 1,840 Higgins Estate Trust . 9,960 individuals • • • « , l>500 6,914 acres 5,198 13,300 * ” 26,412 acres “(MJ (Approximately 75^ of the purchase price of these state lands has been paid.) IRRIGATION; There are in the neighborhood of 4,000 acres of land under irrigation at the' present time, the water being sup­ plied by the natural flow of Box Elder Creek and by three reservoirs providing storage for late water. An additional reservoir, the natural site for which is available, would if built supply an additional 2,000 acres with water. Water-rights covering the entire flow of the creek through the ranch are hold by virtue of Water Appropriations from the State of Wyoming, These appropriations have the \ J y �same value as a deed as under the Wyoming laws - water rights granted cannot be sold or separated from the lands for which they were appropriated. CROPS; The claim that farming by irrigation is the best kind of farming because it eliminates the uncertainty of moisture through rainfall Is well borne out by the successful farming carried on at Careyhurst during the past thirty years. The ranch valley is very fertile and raises practically all varieties of grain. The quality of the crops produced has been exceptionally high and when exhibited the grains pro­ duced have carried off numerous awards and prizes at the National Irrigation Congress, Careyhurst won the first prize for the best display of small grains from an irrigation state. At the Lewis & Clark Centennial, the ranch received a gold medal for the best san^ilc of Russian Spelt, Alfalfa Seed, White Oats, Wheat and V/intor Rye. At the St. Louis Exposition a gold medal was awarded for Oats, Alfalfa and Russian Spelt. The ranch has put up as much as 7,500 tons of hay, but since part of the acreage has been put into grain and ap­ proximately 300 acres are used for sugar beets, the hay pro­ duction has boon cut down to about 4,000 tons. Production of various grains, principally barley and oats with a lesser production of wheat, has yielded an average annual total crop of 25,000 bushels. Sugar beets havebeen produced at the ranch successfully, the production having been carried on either by tho corporation itself or by tenant farmers, and the average annual yield has been 14 tons per aero. Those production records are based on normal growing conditions. While the drouth of the past three years made Itself felt over a largo portion of the western mountain and prairie states, it had only little effect on Careyhurst. Tho supply of irrigation water obtained from Sox Elder Greek held up well enough to result only in small curtailment of crop production, and there was enough feed produced to not only carry on normal live stock operations but to take care in addition of a larger than usual portion of our registered cattlo which had to be moved from the southeastern part of tho state on account of a shortage of hay. Two splendid orchards are on the place where apples, crabapples, and plums arc grown. Nearly every variety of garden vegetables is raised successfully at Careyhurst. BUILDINGS; The improvements at Careyhurst represent the finest type of ranch buildings. They are built substantially of the best materials, are conveniently arranged and are kept in the best state of repair. There are four separate sets of ranch buildings conveniently located for the operation of the property, and in addition there are three sets of �quarters for tenants who ar© farming a part of the property on shareSt At the main or Home Ranch, there is a fourteen-room, stone dwelling, containing a largo living room, sun-porch, six bedrooms, throo baths, two servants* rooms, together with other rooms. This houso is sot in beautiful surround­ ings of stately trees, flower bods, lawns and shrubs. The stables and cow barns are of frame, large, wellarranged and equipped. There arc bunk houses for employees, a mess house, blacksmith shop, machinery shed, office build­ ings and dwellings for both a foreman and a manager. At the Lower Ranch three miles distant from the Home Ranch there is an eight-room frame house, stables and sheds, bunk houses, blacksmith shop, large granary, machine shed and dwelling house for the foreman. The buildings on the other two ranches, while not as large or extensive, are ample for the operation of these ranches. Electric light and power are supplied to the Home Ranch and Lower Ranch by the Mountain States Power Company, whose main line traverses the property, A private telephone line connects the various ranches, together with long distance service over the Bell lines, LIVE STOCK; The ranch is especially well adapted for feeding cattle or sheep. The finest type of beef cattle have been raised here, as well as registered Herefords. In the past when only hay was produced at the ranch, as many as 6,000 head of cattle were wintered. With the amount of grain raised at the pre­ sent time it is estimated that 3,000 head of cattle, or a cor­ responding number of sheep, could be fattened and finished at the ranch. The ranch valley affords wonderful shelter for live stock. There are a great many trees along Box Elder Creek thickly grown together and extending right to the feed lots, providing shelter that is actually more effective than sheds, OUTDOOR RECREATION ALW WILD GAME; The broad expanse of the ranch reaching from th© fertile lowlands along the Platte River to the distant rugged hill tops of the Laramie Mountain Range, affords outdoor recreation of every kind. The deep pools of Box Elder and the waters of the reservoirs offer most enjoyable swimming. Bridle paths at every part of the ranch afford pleasant exercise, either in following the stream thru the lovely valley or taking th© rider on more exciting trails over the foothills or into the mountain canyons. For the horseman, the hunter and fisherman, Careyhurst is a veritable paradise. Box Elder affords splendid trout fishing. Sage hens, grouse, and Mongolian Pheasant are on th© ranch in plentiful numbers, ' The three reservoirs afford �duck hunting# Elk come into the ranch in th© fall and winter and there is a small herd of buffalo located on the ranch. The ranch itself has already been made a game preserve so far as elk and buffalo are concorned. If desired by the owners, the development of a Game Preserve could be carried out much farther than It is nt present# CLIMATE; Careyhurst at an altitude of 5.000 feet (approximately the same as that of Denver, Colorado) has an ideal climate# Contrary to the general idea regarding much of the Rocky Mountain region, winters are not severe and the really cold spells are usually of short duration# The dryness of the atmos­ phere not only lessens the severity of cold waves in the winter, but also ameltorates the hot periods of summer time# The health­ giving bracing qualities of the Rocky Mountain climate are favorably known everywhere# Careyhurst, at a moderate altitude nestled in Its lovely, well-protected valley, enjoys these ideal climatic conditions at their best# RAILROAD AND HIGHWAY FACILITIES: The ranch is traversed by two railroads - the Chicago, Burlington & Quincy and the Chicago & Northwestern# The latter road maintains a passenger and freight depot and telegraph office on tho ranch# There Is a beet dump at this station, built to toko care of the beet crop produced at the ranch# Both of tho railroads maintain stockyards and loading facilities at their stations# There is direct train service to Cheyenne, Denver, Omaha, Kansas City, Chicago and Billings# Tho Yellowstone Highway, main artery of north and south travel of tho west, runs thru the center of the ranch# Being probably Wyoming’s most important highway, it Is kept in ex­ cellent condition throughout all seasons# The distances over this oiled highway between Careyhurst and some of tho prin­ cipal cities of Wyoming and Colorado are: 35 miles from Casper, V/yoming (center of oil activities in this state); 160 miles from Cheyenne (Capitol of Wyoming); 260 miles from Denver, Colorado# �CAREYHURST RANCH Adjudication of Water Kights Based on Decrees of the Board of Control of the State of Wyoming NAME OP DITCH PRIORITY DATE OP DECREE CU. FT. PER SEC. ACRES IRRIG. Carey Box Elder Creek #3 Oct. 19, 1398 1876 4.40 304 Macy No. 2 Oct. 19, 1398 1882 .53 21 Caroy BoxElder Ho. 1 Oct. 19, 1898 May 15,1885 13.40 935 Carey BoxElder No. 2 Oct. 19, 1398 June 1, 1835 11.70 806 Island Oct. 19, 1898 May 1, 1889 .08 5 Carey BoxELder No. 5 Oct. 19, 1898 Oct.14, 1889 2.30 159 Carey Bex Elder Ho. 4 Oct. 19, 1398 Feb. 2, 1893 7.15 497 Macy No. 3 Jan. 30, 1915 Sep.27, 1395 .71 50 Macy No. 4 Oct. 18, 1898 May 2, 1898 .11 8 Carey Reservoir Ditch Jan. 30, 1915 Oct.30, 1901 8.21 575 Enl. Carey Little Box Elder No. 1 Jan. 30, 1915 Mar.23, 1906 2.67 187 Enl.Carey Reservoir Ditch Jan. 30, 1915 June 26, 1908 11.80 826 62.86 4375 • �S 0 RANCH The machinery and ranch equipment according to a recent invent­ ory are listed as follows: 5 1 3 3 4 4 3 12 3 6 35 1 3 tractors combine discs grain drills hay stackers hay rakes beet cultivators beet wagons hay loaders fresnoes sets harness Ford pickup Martin ditchers Shop Equipment 1 4 7 4 17 3 3 7 8 8 1 1 1 case separator tractor plows mowing machines horse mowing machines sweeps beet drills beet pullers hay racks slips farm wagons Chevrolet truck land leveller road grader �The Plaza, New York December 29, 1958. Mr. Hoy Minty, Hotel Henning, Casper, V^'yoming. , Dear Mr. Minty: 1 have had a conference with Mr. Fisher P. Weaver in regard to the sale of• the t^arey Hanch. As you will note from the leaflet enclosed, I am specializing in the sale of ranches in this area. I have matured a p4.an here which has been quite successful and if you want me to undertake the sale of it, I will be pleased to confer with you further. My commission is 5^ net, and I would want an exclusive handing of it for a reasonable time. I have a very good description of your property, including a list of your cattle and the sales and profit therefrom, general ranch expense, grain production, etc. This was furnished me by the Hogan brothers of nainneapolis, sometime ago. I received a letter from them, saying that you had advised them that the ranch was off the market. 1 mention this as I do not w'ant any complications with any other brokers, as I aim to deal directly with the owner. If you are interested, please let me know, and i will be pleased to outline a plan of selling, which 1 believe will appeal to you. Yours very tr GVSzB knc. .kNt van SaNT � https://caspercollege.cvlcollections.org/files/original/62bdb7949d9e42234d688716bdb06bb6.pdf e7f55c81859fb519d605f63baa7a0067 PDF Text Text January 9, 1999 Mr* Orant Van Sant Hotel Plaza Nev York, N.Y. Dear Mr* Van Santx* I aa Juat in receipt of your favor of December 29th, referring to the Careyhurat Ranch. You state in thia letter that you have moat of the data from Rogan Brothers of Minneapolis* and perhaps there is nothing more that 1 can send you, however, 1 will enclose a prospectus X nad prepared in the event you have not received this detailed information* I also Iiave a set of pxiotographs which are very interestixig which may be of some assistance to you when you offer this property for sale. You state your commission Is five percent net* Xt may be a difficult matter for me to secure any more than the five percent commission from the owxwn of Careyhurat, as they have stated definitely they would not consider paying? Tiore. X will take the matter up with them and see Just how they feel, and how anxious they are to sell the ranch* If they will agree tc pay a commission where by X can receive some compensation, I will furnish you with photographs, map, etc., which I have in my office* This is one of the most beautiful ranches, and could be one of tlie moat profitable in this section. Xt Is wonderfully located for a stock proposition as It extends from the Platte river south to the top of the Laramie aoiuxtalns, which mountain range affords a mountain summer range for the stock* The ranch Is very productive, and at this time there is a herd of cattle, which are superior to most cattle In this country,on the ranch* The living conditions are Ideal. �Mr* Grant Van Sant Faga Two After conferring with Mra* Carey or her •on* X will write you further regarding the deal. I thank you for your letter* Xours very truly* RBM/h ROX B. MINTX �OAREZHURST RANCH LOCATION: Careyhurst (or as It la known among live stock men, the S 0 Ranch) is located in Converse County, Wyoming, about 35 miles east of Casper, and 18 miles west of Douglas* It is bordered on the west by the foothills of the Larainle Mountain Range and on the east by the Platte River* The Ranch com­ prises most of the fertile valley of the Box Elder Creek which traverses it for eight miles from a point where it emerges from a mountain canyon to where It empties into the Platte* HISTORY; In the early 70’s when there as yet were few ranches in Wyoming and most of the state was open for location, the first settler established his home on Box Elder Creek. This man was John Hunton, one-time friend of Jim Bridger and other famous characters of the early West, Through chang­ ing ownership during the course of which the ranch holdings were considerably enlarged. It came into the possession of the Carey interests In 1883 and has been owned and managed by them ever since* LAND OWNED AND CONTROLLED; There are approximately 25,000 acres of lands owned or directly controlled at Careyhurst, as follows: Deeded land ••*••*****•* 6,914 acres Purchased under contract from State of Wyoming, *••••••* 5,198 " land State of Wyoming * • • 1,840 Higgins Estate Trust • 9,960 Individuals * * * * * 1,500 13,300 ” Leased Prom From Prom 25,412 acres ** (Approximately 75% of the purchase price of these state lands has been paid*) IRRIGATION; There are in the neighborhood of 4,000 acres of land under irrigation at the present time, the water being sup­ plied by the natural flow of Box Elder Creek and by three reservoirs providing storage for late water. An additional reservoir, the natxiral site for which is available, would if built supply an additional 2,000 acres with waters Water-rights covering the entire flow of the creek through the ranch are held by virtue of Water Appropriations from the State of Wyoming, These appropriations have the �saioB value as a deed as under the Wyoming laws • water rights granted cannot be sold or separated from the lands for which they were appropriated® CROPS: The claim that farming by Irrigation Is the best kind of farming because it eliminates the uncertainty of moisture through rainfall Is well borne out by the successful farming carried on at Careyhurst during the past thirty years. The ranch valley is very fertile and raises practically all varieties of grain. The quality of the crops produced has been exceptionally high and when exhibited the grains pro­ duced have carried off numerous awards and prizes at the National Irrigation Congress, Careyhurst won the first prize for the best display of small grains from an irrigation state. At the Lewis & Clark Centennial, the ranch received a gold medal for the best sanqile of Russian Spelt, Alfalfa Seed, White Oats, Wheat and Winter Rye. At the St. Louis Exposition a gold medal was awarded for Oats, Alfalfa and Russian Spelt. The ranch has put up as much as 7,500 tons of hay, but since part of the acrecige has been put into grain and ap­ proximately 300 acres are used for sugar beets, the hay pro­ duction has been cut down to about 4,000 tons. Production of various grains, principally barley and oats with a leaser production of wheat, has yielded an average annual total crop of 25,000 bushels. Sugar beets havebcen produced at the ranch successfully, the production having been carried on either by the corporation itself or by tenant farmers, and the average annual yield has been 14 tons per acre. These production records are based on normal growing conditions. While the drouth of the past throe years made itself felt over a largo portion of the western mountain and prairie states. It had only little effect on Careyhurst. The supply of irrigation water obtained from Box Elder Creek held up well enough to result only in small curtailment of crop production, and there was enough feed produced to not only carry on normal live stock operations but to take care in addition of a larger than usual portion of our registered cattle which had to be moved from the southeastern part of the state on account of a shortage of hay. Two splendid orchards are on the place where apples, crabapples, and plums are grown. Nearly every variety of garden vegetables is raised successfully at Careyhurst. BUILDINGS; The improvements at Careyhurst represent the finest typo of ranch buildings. They are built substantially of the best materiala> are conveniently arranged and ore kept in the best state of repair. There are four separate sets of ranch buildings conveniontly located for the operation of the property, and in addition there are three sets of �quarters for tenants who are farming a port of the property on shares« At the main or Home Ranch, there is a fourteen-room, stone dwelling, containing a large living room, sun-porch, six bedrooms, throe baths, two servants’ rooms, together with other rooms# This house is sot in beautiful surround­ ings of stately trees, flower beds, lawns and shrubs. The stables and cow barns are of frame, largo, wellarranged and equipped. There aro bunk houses for employees, a mess house, blacksmith shop, machinery shed, office build­ ings and dwellings for both a foreman and a manager. At the Lower Ranch three miles distant from the Home Ranch there is an eight-room frame house, stables and sheds, bunk houses, blacksmith shop, large granary, machine shed and dwelling house for the foreman. The buildings on the other two ranches, while not as large or extensive, are ample for the operation of these ranches. Electric light and power are supplied to the Home Ranch and Lower Ranch by the Mountain States Power Company, whose main line traverses the property. A private telephone line connects the various ranches, together with long distance service over the Bell lines. LIVE STOCK: The ranch is especially well adapted for feeding cattle or sheep. The finest type of beef cattle have been raised here, as well as registered Herefords. In the past when only hay was produced at the ranch, as many as 6,000 head of cattle were wintered. With the amount of grain raised at the pre­ sent time it is estimated that 3,000 head of cattle, or a cor­ responding number of sheep, could be fattened and finished at the ranch. The ranch valley affords wonderful shelter for live stock. There are a great many trees along Box Elder Creek thickly grown together and extending right to the feed lots, providing shelter that is actually more effective than sheds. OUTDOOR RECREATION AND WILD GAME; The broad expanse of the ranch reaching from the fertile lowlands along the Platte River to the distant rugged hill tops of the Laramie Mountain Range, affords outdoor recreation of every kind. The deep pools of Box Elder and the waters of the reservoirs offer most enjoyable swimming. Bridle paths at every part of the ranch afford pleasant exercise, either in following the stream thru the lovely valley or taking the rider on more exciting trails over the foothills or into the mountain canyons. For the horseman, the hunter and fisherman, Careyhurst is a veritable paradise. Box Elder affords splendid trout fishing. Sage hens, grouse, and Mongolian Pheasant are on the ranch in plentiful numbers. The three reservoirs afford �duck hunting# Elk come into the ranch in the fall and winter and there is a email herd of buffalo located on the ranch. The ranch itself has already been made a game preserve so far as elk and buffalo are concerned# If desired by the owners, the development of a Game Prosorvo could be carried out much, farther than It is at present, CLIMATE; Careyhurst at an altitude of 5.000 foot (approximately the same as that of Denver, Colorado) has on ideal climate. Contrary to the general idea regarding much of the Rocky Mountain region, winters are not severe and the really cold spells are usually of short duration. The dryness of the atmos­ phere not only lessens the severity of cold waves in the winter, but also amelbrates the hot periods of summer time. The health­ giving bracing qualities of the Rocky Mountain climate are favorably known everywhere, Careyhurst, at a moderate altitude nestled in its lovely,'well-protected valley, enjoys these ideal climatic conditions at their best, RAILROAD AND HIGHWAY, FACILITIES: The ranch is traversed by two railroads - tho Chicago, Burlington & Quincy and tho Chicago & Northwestern, Tho latter road maintains a passenger and freight depot and telegraph office on tho ranch. There is a beet dump at this station, built to take care of tho beet crop produced at the ranch. Both of the railroads maintain stockyards and loading facilities at their stations. There is direct train service to Choyenno, Denver, Omaha, Kansas City, Chicago and Billings, Tho Yellowstone Highway, main artery of north and south travel of the west, runs thru the center of the ranch. Being probably Wyoming’s most Important highway, it Is kept in ex­ cellent condition throughout all seasons. The distances over this oiled highway between Careyhurst and some of tho prin­ cipal cities of Wyoming and Colorado arc: 55 miles from Casper, V/yoming (center of oil activities in this state); 160 miles from Cheyenne (Capitol of Wyoming); 260 miles from Denver, Colorado, �CAREYHORST RANCH Adjudication of Water Kights Based on Decrees of the Board of Control of the State of Wyoming HAKE OF DITCH DATE OF DECREE PRIORITY CU. FT. PER SEC. ACRES IRRIG Carey BoxElder Creek #3 Oct. 19, 1898 1876 4.40 304 Macy No. 2 Oct. 19, 1898 1882 .33 21 Carey BoxElder No. 1 Oct. 19, 1898 May 15,1885 13.40 935 Carey BcocElder No. 2 Oct. 19, 1398 June 1, 1885 11.70 806 Island Oct. 19, 1898 May 1, 1889 .08 5 Carey BoxELder No. 5 Oct. 19, 1898 Oct.14; 1889 2.30 159 Carey Boe Elder No. 4 Oct. 19, 1398 Feb. 2, 1893 7.15 497 Macy No. 3 Jan. 30, 1915 Sep.27, 1895 .71 50 Macy No. 4 Oct. 18, 1898 May 2, 1898 .11 8 Carey Reservoir Ditch Jan. 30, 1915 Oct.30, 1901 8.21 575 Enl. Carey Little Box Elder No. 1 Jan. 30, 1915 Mar.28, 1906 2.67 187 Enl.Carey Reservoir Ditch Jan. 50, 1915 June 26, 1908 11.80 826 62.86 4573 �S 0 RANCH The machinery and ranch equipment according to a recent invent­ ory are listed as follows: 5 1 3 3 4 4 3 12 3 6 35 1 3 tractors combine discs grain drills hay stackers hay rakes beet cultivators beet wagons hay loaders fresnoes sets harness Ford pickup Martin ditchers Shop Equipment 1 4 7 4 17 3 3 7 8 8 1 1 1 case separator tractor plows mowing machines horse mowing machines sweeps beet drills beet pullers hay racks slips farm wagons Chevrolet truck land leveller road grader �GRANT VAN SANT RANCH SPECIALIST HOTEL PLAZA NEW YOKK January 13th, 1939 Mr. Roy B. Minty, Casper, Wyoming. My dear Mr. Minty: I thank you for your letter of the 3rd inst. I I have delayed answering it in order to confer with Mr. Weaver and Mr. Mighill of the C. R. Noyes Co. of this City. Mr. Noyes has been in the hospital due to an injury to his foot and is not available. However, I have some rather definite Ideas about some phases of this matter as follows: This ranch has been "hawked” around the Country. 1 have had it submitted to me not only by Mr. Hogan but by two real estate dealers in Denver, and it has been mentioned to me in two other letters. You have a meritorious property, but I am not interested in working on anything unless 1 have exclusive option or listing for a reasonable period of time, say eight months or possibly a year. I think Mr. Mighill or Mr. Weaver will tell you that I have sold large ranches and that I have a system of selling in this market, which 1 believe is effective. I am quite busy on other properties and I do not want to take on this ranch attractive as it seems, from the standpoint of production, unless my plan of opera­ tion is complied with reasonable limitation. I am unable to become interested in this property on any other basis than a 5% net commission. You can see, 1 believe, that it would not pay me to go to the expense necessary to properly present this Ranch in the local market on anything less than that amount. I am enclosing a leaflet giving you some idea of what 1 am doing with references, and I can also refer you to Mr. Charles Betcher of Denver, President of the Great Western Sugar Company. I own a ranch, free and clear of all encumbrances in the '=‘an Luis Valley, Colorado, worth around $500,000.00, which is not for sale as 1 have now got it up to an income producing position, which makes it a satisfactory investment. Mr. Betcher owns the railroad running through the property above mentioned, and X have had occasion to become acquainted with him. I know this ranch Is a meritorious one or I would not consider it at all and i hope we may be able to get together along the lines above mentioned. GVSsB C2y' v^y trulyy^ �Janxiary 1959 Mr* Grant Van Sant Hotel Plaxa Hew lork City, H.Y. Dear Ur« Van Saatt« X am Just In receipt of yow favor under date of January X5th» X am sorry there has been the delay In furnishing you with the Information you desired* but In a way* it has been unavoidable. I took the matter up with Mrs. Garey and* while she seemed very much Interested* she would make no decision and asked me to refer tlie matter to the coji^any’s office In Cheyenne which I htive done I have every reason to believe that I will be able to write you definitely within the next few days. Very truly yours^ RBM/h ROY B. MISTY �Jonxiary X7« 1959 Carey Brothers Estate Cheyenne, W/oraing OentleB^DS* X am enclosing herevith soioe oorrespondenee with reference to the sale of Careyhurst« I think that if you will read thia over oarefully> there will he nothing much that X oan &dtf| and if you will write me with reference to this matter and your reply is favorable to Ur* Van Sant, we mi^t get something started* X will say* Ixowever* that X believe Ur* Van Santas attitude in this matter io correct] that when a propo* sit ion* such as you are offering, to use his expreaslon, is "hawked'* around the c ountry* it cheapens it aore or less* and a man of Ur* Van 3ant*s apparent standing would hesitate about handling it* had it been passed around to others* 1 would like to hear from you as soon as you find th convenient to reply* that X may give Ur* Van Sant something definite to either work on or dismiss* X will appreciate the return of the enclosed correspondense• With personal regards to you all* I am Yours very truly* ROY B. MUITY RBU/b Encl �JOSEPH M. CAR EV, PBttiDINT W. E.-MULLEN.Vioe P»I9IDIHT KARL B. AXT, SkCretary ELIZABKTH M. CAREY, asst Sbcrbtary U.M.OAReYSc BROTHER <IN co RPORATEO I CH EV'S N N E W V'O MIN© January 20, 1939 Mr. Roy B. Minty Henning Hotel Casper, Wyoming Dear Roy: I am returning your correspondence with Mr. Van Sant regarding the Careyhurst ranch. I note Mr. Van Sant mentions in one of his letters that he was originally contacted by Hogan Eros, in Minneapolis. On July 25, 1938 we were informed by Mr. Hogan that they were dealing with Mr. Van Sant and a Mr. J. C. Kriendler for the sale of the property. He also mentioned the possibility of the above mentioned men trying to deal through third parties. While we desire very much to conclude the sale of the ranch, we are particularly cautious to have a clear understand­ ing regarding the commission to be paid in case of sale. Ob­ viously if we gave Mr. Van Sant an exclusive listing and they were able to consumraate a sale,Hogan Bros, would claim a commision as they originally Infoimed Mr. Van Sant that the praperty was for sale. I wish you would call these facts to Mr. Van Sant’s attention and see if he has any suggestions. We have withdrawn the listing of the ranch from most of the real estate outfits, including Hogan Bros., with whom it was fornerly listed, as we have the same idea regarding the propositiont being kicked around the country as did Mr. Van Sant. . you have any personal and financial references regard­ ing Mr. Van Sant, I would appreciate your sending then to us. With best wishes, I am Sincerely yours, JMC:mw �January 21* 1939 Mr* J. M. Carey & Bro Cheyexme* Wyoming Gentlemens- I have your letter referring to Xr«Van Sant*® oorrespondenoe which wb» enclosed* It la very apparent to me that beoeuae of the fact so many have been interest In offering thia property thnt you will have to be particularly cautious to protect yourself against the possibility of being obligated in various placed in the event a sale Is made. I contact Hr. Van Sant* or rather he con­ tacted me* through infomatlon passed on by Ur. Jack Weaver of Now York and to whom Mr. Van Sant refers. I have mailed Ur. Van Sant a copy of your letter received this A. U.* end called his attention to Mr. Weaver’s representation end advised him that if he has any suggestion to make, which la pract&ble and reasouEble and will relieve you from any obligation which might have been previously as­ sumed, to please subnlt same. With reference to his personal or financial standing, the only thing 1 have bearing on this was contained in his leaflet which you have in your office, and his reference to Mr. Botcher of Denver* In hla letter of January 13th. With best regards, X am Tours very truly. ROT B. MIHTT RBM/h �January 21, 1939 Mr. Grant Van Sant Plaza Hotel New York, N.Y. Dear Mr. ^an Sanfc:- I G.ra enclosing herewith copy of letter Just received from the Carey Estate. It the deal as Mr. Carey’s position in would appear from Mr. Carey’s letter that it stands today is rather complicated, and attitude regarding the proposition and their the matter Is, of course, justified. There are so many appearing in the picture, who have had more or less to do with the offering of this ranch property, that unless Mr. Carey Is very eautloua, he may find himself obligated to several In the event of a Bale by anyone of the parties who haa been Interested. However, after rending Hr. Carey’s letter carefully, you may hrve scmethlng to suggest. At any rate, I will be glod to hear from you and I assure you that I will mnke every effort to get the matter straight ened out so that we can go ahead with the deal feeling that wo have the "right of way". Another thought that enters my mind end per* haps you can straighten out. Is with reference to Jack Weaver. Hnve you any agreement with him in the event a sale is consumatedt Yours very truly, ROY B. MINTY RBM/h ENCL �JOSEPH M. CAREY, P.tuDtHT W.E.MULUEN.Vice Paesioknt KARL B. AXT, SECRETARY ELIZABETH M. CAREY, ASST. Secretary U.M.OAREYSt BRO"rHER liNCOftPORATCDJ CH EYE NNE, WYOMING February 3, 1939 Mr. Roy B. MintyHotel Henning Casper, Wyoming Dear Roy: I am sorry not to have answered your letter of January 21 sooner, but I have been in Denver attend­ ing the Stock Show until a few days ago. In your letter of January 21 you state that you sent us a leaflet regarding Mr. Van Sant in one of your fonner letters. In looking through our files we have been unable to locate this information and am writing to ask if you will send us a duplicate copy as well as any futher infoimation you have regarding Mr. Van Sant and his interest in Careyhurst. With kind regards, I am Very truly yours, JMC:mw � Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Roy B. Minty Papers Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource <a href="http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/NKC/1.0/">http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/NKC/1.0/</a> Date Created Date of creation of the resource. 1930-1939 Description An account of the resource Roy B. Minty was a livestock broker out of Casper, WY. His office was located in the lobby of the Henning Hotel. Researchers will find letters and telegrams exchanged between Minty and Draper and Draper Incorporated Wool out of Boston, Massachusetts among other items of potential interest to the sheep and wool industry in Wyoming during the 1930s. Minty's papers consist of correspondence, data on Wyoming sheep ranchers from 1934, correspondence in regard to the Careyhust Ranch from 1937-1939, information on a Wind River Day School lamb sale, as well as ledgerbooks, settlement slips, bills of sale, contracts, agreements, and more. These records date from the late 1920s to the late 1930s. Type The nature or genre of the resource Collection Access Rights Information about who can access the resource or an indication of its security status. Access Rights may include information regarding access or restrictions based on privacy, security, or other policies. Archivists are happy to assist anyone with accessing the physical or electronic copies of these records. 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Minty's papers consist of correspondence, data on Wyoming sheep ranchers from 1934, correspondence in regard to the Careyhust Ranch, information on a Wind River Day School Lamb sale, as well as ledgerbooks, settlement slips, bills of sale, contracts, agreements, and more. These records date from the late 1920s to the late 1930s. Type The nature or genre of the resource Text Language A language of the resource ENG Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context NCA 01.ii.2023.01_CareyHurstRanchFile_1937-1939 Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource PDF Extent The size or duration of the resource. 9.62 megabytes (1 folder. 3 files) Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Roy B. Minty Papers, NCA 01.ii.2023.03 WyCaC US. Casper College Archives and Special Collections. Access Rights Information about who can access the resource or an indication of its security status. 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Title A name given to the resource 1987 Casper College Alumni Reunion Records Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource <a href="http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/InC/1.0/">http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/InC/1.0/</a> Description An account of the resource This record group contains meeting minutes, notes, programming, correspondence, photographs, and a few newspaper clippings used for the purpose of the 1987 Cas[er College Class Reunion. Materials were created or otherwise used by the Casper College Foundation and Alumni Association and the Colleg Relations Department. Researchers will find an address recalling the life and times of the 1935 graduating class titled, "A Different World, but in Many Ways the Best of Times," read by Agatha Bast Ledin. Also included is a "Meet the 1947-1948 Thunderbirds" program. There are 103 photographic prints. Individuals photographed include Dr. LeRoy Strausner and Bill Landen. 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Rebecca: Okay, thank you very much for giving your time today. Let’s start with your name and your instrument and a little bit about your musical background, how you came to play that instrument or those instruments. Then we’ll go from there. Carolyn: Okay, Carolyn Deuel and I play percussion in the symphony mostly mallets. I have a degree in piano from the University of Northern Colorado. A degree in organ from the University of Iowa and while I was at Iowa I took percussion from Tom Davis who was the head of percussion and actually a Casper native. And so, when I got done with my master’s I came back to Casper in the summer of 1976 and they were doing the musical 1776. Tom Kinser [Head of the Casper College music department, saxophone instructor, and conductor of the stage band, in the mid-1970s] was one of the ones knowing I took percussion at Iowa so he invited me to play in the city band, and when Curtis Peacock was looking for another percussionist for 1776 Tom sent him my way. Rebecca: Okay, can we backtrack a bit and can you explain exactly what mallet percussion is? Carolyn: Yes, it is a percussion that is playing keyboard type instruments, but you are playing them with mallets. Instead of your fingers like on piano or organ. That’s like the glockenspiel or bells, xylophone, the stand up chimes, the vibraphone and the marimba. But then I also play, when it’s needed naturally, things like triangle, claves and you know those kinds of things as well as bass drum. �Rebecca: Right. So the vibraphone and marimba it’s my understanding that those are larger versions of the xylophone? One with wood and one with metal? Carolyn: The marimba is wood and it has bigger keys or pieces of wood for the different pitches just like a piano has. Also bigger vibrating pieces of metal tube underneath, and it’s a more mellow sound. So, often the xylophone is a brittle sound and it will cut through things and marimba is more of a solo instrument. The vibraphone is totally metal keys and the thing that is different about it is it has a pedal like a piano so it’s the only one of the mallet instruments that has that feature and therefore, you can make the sound ring and mold different sounds together so it is a frequently used instrument to make ringing melodic sounds. Rebecca: Yeah, can you explain a little bit more in detail what the pedal does on the piano? So that we have a point of reference. Carolyn: The pedal, there are dampers on each of the strings the strings make the sound on a piano. There are dampers on the strings, so if you just play a piano note then the damper goes right back on the string and it stops the sound. But if you have the pedal on, then the dampers are raised and all the sounds you play will mush together until you release the damper pedal and stop the sound by having the dampers go back on the strings. Rebecca: Okay, thanks! Carolyn: Mhmm. Rebecca: Okay, okay I’ve got a question I don’t know if I asked it or not. What is mallet percussion exactly? Did I ask you that? Carolyn: Yeah, and I told you that they’re instruments that have keys like a piano like C, C#, D all of the different keys. But, you play them with mallets so you have a stick that you’re holding in your hand that has a ball on the other end of it and you strike the different notes with the �mallets. So, for most of those we’ve talked about you’ve got either a plastic or yarn head on the mallet that strikes so that naturally your not going to hit the vibraphone or the marimba with a hard mallet that’s going to damage the marimba or be too much of a brittle sound with the vibraphone. But, with the bells and with the xylophone you want a bright sound so those mallets are plastic or even when you are doing marching band or something where you really want the mallets then it’s a metal ball on the end that strikes the bell. Then with the chimes, the stand up chimes, you have a wooden thing that looks more like a hammer and so you strike the lip of the chimes with that. Rebecca: Okay, and I’m for some reason thinking about the Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy and the Nutcracker— Carolyn: That is—that instrument is written for celeste [pronounced chell-essta] and in the old days with the symphony we had an actual [celeste] that looked like a teeny tiny grand piano. So that it had a lid that you lifted, it had two rows of metal tubes that stood up and then on the end a piece of metal that was hooked to the key it had a square block that would hit those and so they have a very special sound as you know, anyone who hears the Nutcracker, knows that sound of the Sugar Plum Fairy. But, it was a small instrument so there wasn’t the full range that I needed so I would have to play, you know bring the music down a octave to play within scope of that and now what they use is just a, go ahead and use a synthesizer a celeste sound on it. So you are playing it like a keyboard, like a piano. Rebecca: Ah, and in your opinion does the synthesizer really sound like an acoustic. Carolyn: I like the celeste better. And I’ll tell you what this past...Christmas when we were doing the Nutcracker just a suite from it. They really had trouble coming up with a sound they all liked and so it was a problem but they finally came up with one they accepted. �Rebecca: That’s rather interesting, personally I’ve always felt that synthesizers were never going to replace actual instruments and people— Carolyn: I’m with you. But unfortunately they’re cheaper and they stay in tune so a lot, a lot, a lot of people are using them, you know. Rebecca: Yeah, okay well I have to tell you this, maybe it will interest historical records but um. I was a freshman at the University of Wyoming and I was killing myself trying to learn to play the cello and it was so hard because I was still at the stage where I was struggling to play in tune and things like that. So one day I went into the sound lab. There was a guy there whose whole life was composing music on the synthesizer. I think I said something like, “Can you really compare what you’re doing to what I’m doing?” He knew I was a cello performance major and he said “Yeah” and I said, ‘How can you figure?” I was trying not to be adversarial but it was such a struggle to—a Carolyn: Oh boy— Rebecca: Learn to play the cello. He said, “Well I think it’s the same because I control everything this synthesizer does.” So he was saying he played it like anyone else plays an instrument. I went away from that conversation feeling really stunned because if there’s one thing I couldn’t do at that stage of my skills is control what the cello did. Carolyn: (laughing) Rebecca: It was a great conversation. Carolyn: That’s neat, very cool. Well you know the Shepherd of the Hills [Presbyterian church in Casper, Wyo.] just got a new organ and they are very proud of it because they, they had an instrument that wasn’t very good and what they did. [Inaudible] is the organist there and they got one that has samples from the different organs of the world. So, they invited the folks of us who �play the Bach’s Lunch concerts on the pipe organ at Saint Mark’s [Episcopal church in Casper, Wyo.] to play a recital there and it was fun! I played a Franck piece [Cesar Franck, 19th century French composer and pianist] with the French Cavaille Coll organ sound [Cavaille Coll was a 19th century French organ builder]. Those were special organs that had all kinds of different mechanisms to them. I used the samplings from that for the Franck. Then, I used an American organ for an American piece and it was fun to hear the difference, but still it's like you're hearing a recording, you know. And I don’t ever want to hurt their feelings but it isn’t the same as the pipe organ. Rebecca: Well, organs are a very difficult instrument in my opinion because where you have your hands it seems to me there is more than one keyboard. Is that right? Carolyn: Yes, and then you have the full pedal board too so you have your feet doing the third part you know. Rebecca: That’s why I think it’s difficult, almost as difficult as the double bass. Carolyn: Aha (laughter) Rebecca: Okay great. Okay, is there anything else you want to add about your background before we go onto your affiliation with symphony? Carolyn: No, I don’t think so. But I’m glad to get to tell the story about 1776 because that gave me an easy entrance into the symphony. It was the symphony that was doing the 1776 musical so by Kinser telling Curtis that I played percussion, and by my playing for him and doing an okay job in the musical. I’ve been in the symphony since 1976. Rebecca: Okay, and what instruments did you play in the 1776, in that musical? Carolyn: Well, that is the only time in my life that I ever played timpani. So he had a need for a person in the pit [orchestra pit, where musicians are grouped in an area lower than the stage] and �he could only have two performers so I mostly played bells. But, I did do a little bit of timpani because that was needed. So, I am trying to think, am I right? Was I playing or was Roger Cliff playing? I know that I was doing stuff that I hadn’t done before, and never did again. And I can’t play snare [snare drum] because I never learned it. So, it was mostly: bells, chimes, triangle, I don’t think there was tambourine in 1776. That's another instrument that’s a common one. Of course, it’s been a long time since I did that. Rebecca: Okay, for, for the historical record describe what a tambourine is. Carolyn: It's like a drum head with jingles on it, they're actually called jingles, and they’re pieces of metal that are on the sides. So the drum head is on a wooden frame and it has these metal pieces that clink together and make a jingly sound. Rebecca: So you hold the frame and you pat it? Carolyn: Shake it, you either shake it or you pat it. Yeah, you either hit it like a drum or you shake it. All the pop stars, pop bands, had people who would shake it or hit it on their knee and then come up and hit it on their hand. Rebecca: Okay, thank you Carolyn: huh Rebecca: Okay, is there anything you want to add about the various percussion instruments you have played before we go into your time with the symphony? Carolyn: No. Rebecca: Okay, so you joined the symphony in 1976. Carolyn: Right. Rebecca: And have you played in the symphony ever since? Carolyn: Yes. �Rebecca: Okay, and it’s my understanding, you referred to the timpani, that is a separate percussion instrument and you have a timpanist playing the timpani usually? Carolyn: In the Wyoming Symphony? Yes. There is one person who plays the timpani. And the rest of us cover the other things. Rebecca: Okay, but you have performed on the timpani before, and presumably could? Carolyn: Just a fraction. No, in fact let’s erase that and pretend I never played the timpani. Rebecca: Okay. Carolyn: Okay, (laughter) Rebecca: They have to be tuned, there’s three of them and they all have to be tuned, right? Carolyn: They’re up to five and they do have to be tuned. They have a pedal on them that has several pitches so you have to tune. Each one has a range of about a fifth, about five notes. So then, you have bigger to smaller with different pitches and then by what is needed in a given piece that says how many and by the technique of it. For instance, a lot of pieces that use—let’s say you are playing in the key of C, you would use the pedal in a G [A musical “key” means the note on which the scale is built, that in turn, the piece is based on]. And if there is a lot of time to move, if you needed an A or a D or an F or something else you could change the tuning on it. But if it’s fast notes where you have to go quickly then you would add a third one to be able to play more pitches or a fourth one or a fifth one. So, it depends on the range of the notes and how fast everything is. Rebecca: Now, that makes sense. Okay soCarolyn: Because each one can just play one note at a time. You knowRebecca: Yeah right, yeah because I am trying to make sure this is clear to the listener. Because each individual drum as it were, that is probably the wrong word for timpani- �Carolyn: No, their other name is kettle drum. So it is fine to call it timpani and drum. Rebecca: Yeah, it can only have one pitch so it's the equivalent of having a keyboard instrument with only four keys or five depending on how many drums you have. Carolyn: Right, then with your foot of course you can change them quickly. You know, but again you have to be sure it's in tune and it just depends on how many fast notes you have and things. Rebecca: Yeah that makes sense. Okay, so I was sitting here doing the math you’ve been playing in the symphony for more than 45 years, 46 to be exact, is that right? Carolyn: Right. Rebecca: Have you played every concert? Carolyn: No, and the reason for that is that the composers don’t always write us in. Rebecca: That is very true come to think of it. Carolyn: So we rarely play January concerts for the symphony because they usually do a smaller group of musicians and they often do classical music. And if there is any percussion it is usually just timpani. Now, Mozart once in a while would use triangle or something but generally the bigger use of percussion didn’t come in until the Romantic composers in the 1800s. Rebecca: Yeah, let’s back up and just clarify the term classical, because you and I know what it means but it’s not generally known that there's basically two meanings of the word or two connotationsCarolyn- Right, so when I’m talking about the classical literature of a symphony. I’m talking about the classical era of literature that went from 1750 to about 1810, and the main composers were Mozart and Haydn and the start of Beethoven. Rebecca: Yeah, Okay great. Okay so- of all the concerts you have played with the symphony can you describe a few that were more memorable than others? �Carolyn: I’m trying to think. In the early days we did more with the [Casper] Civic Chorale. So the performances of the Verdi Requiem and the Brahms Requiem [Latin text of the Catholic Mass for the Dead set to music] were very special times and the fun part for me was that I had also done those pieces in Mexico with the Civic Chorale with the Wyoming State Choir actually. Um, we had done the Verdi Requiem and I had done the Brahms Requiem at the University of Iowa. So they were pieces I knew and had sung and enjoyed. [Giuseppe Verdi, 19th century Italian composer] Rebecca: That always makes it easier. Carolyn: Yeah, and fun you know. Um, let’s see another one. ArtCore [Arts organization in Casper, Wyo.] did “Visas for Life” and it was in collaboration with Mariko Miller who was an Honorary Consul General of Japan. And her father was in the Japanese consulate at Washington D.C. when World War II was about to happen. He tried to avert that but there was nothing that could stop it. But her name, she was five at the time, her name was a code name. One day she was sitting at the table eating lunch and feeling perfectly fine and she heard her dad say ‘Mariko is under the weather today’. And of course it had nothing to do with her sitting there, it had to do with whatever message he was trying to pass on. So, in Casper then she was able to get another great story that happened in World War II. There were people in Lithuania, there was a Japanese ambassador to Lithuania. He woke up one day and there was sound outside and it turned out that there were many many hundreds of Jews that were trying to get to safety. To be able to get out of Lithuania they needed passports from the Japanese consulate, and they needed to be able to get on trains and get out of the country to safety. He had many wires with the Japanese government and they would not allow him to do it. So he was sitting there with all these people needing his help and not getting help from his government, and he finally decided he was going to sign them �anyway. He signed well over 2,000 [passports] and in that time span the passport was made to the woman of the family. So they don’t really know how many that covered, but he was still signing them. He was recalled to Japan and he was still signing them out the window of the train as he was having to leave. But she [Mariko] was able to bring the son of that ambassador and his wife to Casper and the symphony and the Civic Chorale and the school system all worked together and did this concert. And they had a talk and a film from that family. Symphony played Fanfare for the Common Man [by American composer Aaron Copland] and then I don’t remember what else but we started with that and you know the only percussion in that is bass drum and timpani and then it’s brass players. So I got to play the bass drum and it was a very powerful thing. The school system had essay contests and the winners of those contests were honored on stage that night at that concert. The Civic Chorale sang, the symphony played and it was wonderful. Rebecca: So Fanfare for the Common man is a piece by Aaron CoplandCarolyn: Yes, yesRebecca: Okay well that’s really interesting. Um, I want to jump over to various pieces you may have sung and or played in. I wanted to ask you about Beethoven’s Ninth. Have you sung in a choir for that? Carolyn: I have, it was fun. Various times there would be concerts that would be different literature you would have. So with Beethoven’s Ninth I actually just sang, but there were other concerts where we would sing, like Messiah [An oratorio (composition for small orchestra, soloists and choir) by George Friedrich Handel, German-British composer of the late 17th and early 18th centuries] but they would have more literature for the concert and I would get to, like, to play in the first half and sing in the second half. That was a lot of fun. But, with Beethoven’s �Ninth it’s very [inaudible] that we are talking about this right now because they [the Wyoming Symphony Orchestra] are getting ready to do it on October 8th. I will not be singing, but in the old days we had risers that had chairs so we could sit. Beethoven’s Ninth is written so it is 70 minutes of music and the choir sings only the last fifteen. So, you have the problem of what are you going to do? Are you going to make the choir stand there for 70 minutes? Or for 55 minutes? So in the old days with the seated risers it was no problem at all we could sit and totally enjoy the symphony and then stand and do our part when it was time. Then, somebody trashed those risers and another time we sang we were backstage and we were allowed to just come on for the fourth movement. It was very crowded because it was the Civic Chorale and College choirs so it’s not a comfortable thing to sing just because of the physical problem of it. We were squeezed onto risers. You could barely hold your music out and so it is not a favorite of chorale people, of a lot of us. We like it better when we are included in more of it and really are half of the show, but what’s going to happen in the fall is the chorale is- any of the chorale that wants to join the college choir will do that and will be rehearsing it separately. But there are a lot of us, about ten of us, that sit for performances. I actually sit when I play for symphony, most of the time I have a stool that I use. So, I am 70 years old and the only thing I cannot do is stand for a long time. So the word has come down that we won’t be able to have any chairs like we do at chorale concerts, so people will be standing for the fifteen minutes and I am not going to be there. But a lot of the people will enjoy doing it. They are going to allow them to come on just for the fourth movement and I haven’t really clocked how long but it will be a little longer than the fifteen minutes generally. At least they don’t have to stand for the 70. Rebecca: Yeah, another question I have. This comes from having had some voice performance major friends in college. They always explained to me that the human voice is a very delicate �instrument, it needs to be handled with care so that you’re warming up and not exceeding your range and not singing too loud and so on is all very important. I have always wondered how the choir and the soloists could manage sitting there through the first three movements and part of the fourth movement before they have to start singing. It must be very hard on the voice, is that true? Carolyn: Well you know there is a difference between someone with the voices you are talking about- possibly a little more delicate. It's like we are generally run of the mill singers for the most part so- it's not that bad. You will have warmed up a little bit beforehand but it’s not like when you have the whole group around you you're not really having to strain. I mean yes you are full voice when you get to the fortissimo [loudest] sections and everything but it's not really that bad. The vocalists you are speaking with probably have maybe more delicate voices in terms of what they need to be doing in a solo capacity. But you know if you are at a party or something like that and then you decide- oh let’s do some sing-a-longs people can sing and for the generals one’s of us it is not that hard on our voices. Rebecca: I see, so the four soloists don't really have any protective cover; their warmup that they did before the piece will last them. Carolyn: They probably have--you can warm your vocal cords up by doing kind of a humming or an ‘n’ sound so they probably know what will work for them to be able to keep their throats warm and their vocal cords a little bit stimulated. So I guess it’s probably the people that can sing after sitting there for that long that are going to succeed as soloists because they don’t have the benefit of being able to baby themselves. Rebecca: And it makes sense that there are probably lots of places where the orchestra is playing loud enough where they could do a bit of humming and never be heard. �Carolyn: Exactly. Rebecca: Well that is very interesting, to an instrumentalist all I know is suddenly they are having to sing and they didn’t get to warm up. That must be- the only thing that would be harder would be singing in a seven hour Wagner opera. Carolyn: (laughter) For sure. Rebecca: Okay, well great let’s see I am trying to cross out the questions as you answer them so I don’t ask them twice. Oh- You referred to the Messiah let’s go back to that and say a little more about it. Who it’s by, what it is, and why it’s significant. Carolyn: Okay well its actual title although I’ve seen printed other copies is accepted I think among the musicologists it is just called ‘Messiah’ rather than ‘The Messiah’ but Messiah. But Handel is the composer he was born the same year as Bach 1685 and he was in Germany but then he went to England and Bach stayed in Germany and there were various times when they could have met and I think they chose not to. (laughter) Because there isn’t any reason they couldn’t have crossed paths. [Audio cuts out 32:52-32:55] Carolyn: Hi, my screen went funny for a minute and then came back. Can you still hear me? Rebecca: Yeah, I can hear you. Great. And- the recording is still going. Carolyn: Very good, okay so. One story is the King was sort of snoozing and the piece finished and his wife jabbed him. And he was so startled that he stood up, and when the King stood up everyone stood up. So it has become a tradition that everyone stands for the Hallelujah chorus which is the end of Messiah. Rebbecca: It is the end of the Christmas part of the Messiah. �Carolyn: Exactly, and when people are only doing the Easter part they still do the Hallelujah chorus because of course that is the most popular piece from this work. Rebecca: Right. Carolyn: But the people from this- whether you are doing the Easter section or the Christmas section or the whole thing you end with the Hallelujah chorus and people generally stand up. But, it was kind of an accident in the first place. Rebecca: That’s a great story. Okay and the thing that I think is kind of interesting about the Messiah is it is one of the few choral pieces where the libretto [the words that go with the music] was originally in English. Carolyn: Right. Rebecca: I mean you look at the Brahms Requiem and that libretto is presumably in German? Carolyn: Right. Rebecca: And Verdi Requiem is in Italian, I assume and Carolyn: Right, but see Handel was in England. Rebecca: He is basically considered a British composer, I think. Carolyn: Yeah and so- so that’s why it was in English. Rebecca: Yeah, well cool. Carolyn: But of course he started over in Germany. Rebecca: Yeah, okay let’s see. We’ve gone over what instruments you play as a percussionist and you have described them. You have defined mallet percussion. We have clarified what you meant by classical music. Oh, you referred to ArtCore. Can you say a little more about ArtCore? What it is and what it does? �Carolyn: Sure- sure- we made up the name ArtCore from Art Coordinating Representatives. And so it was very strange when we went to get a web address. We tried to get just plain ‘Art Core’ and someone in England had gotten that name 17 years before that. So what we had to do was use ‘Artcorewy.com’ for our website because by adding the Wyoming part- and of course it’s worked out well because it lets people know where we are. But anyway, we made it up and someone else had it. So what we do is to present concerts for student and community audiences. For instance, when we had the ‘Fire Ants’ which is a group from Buffalo, Wyoming this spring they actually worked with the students at Kelly Walsh [high school in Casper, Wyo.] and worked with band, orchestra and choral students they all came together. Then the day of the concert we had a 12:45 session that students could bus in and homeschool families could come to. So, by having a general place they can come we can provide for all the schools. And then, they do a 45 minute program that incorporates part of their performance but also they talk about what inspired them to take up music and working hard enough to become professionals. Frequently the message that they give the children is, find something you are really good at and pursue it. It doesn’t matter if it’s music whatever it is but really make your best efforts to excel. Then they do standard evening concerts that are open to the public, and we have- not every artist does that but a majority of them do. For instance, for 22-23 our first concert is going to be Riders in the Sky which is very popular in this western town. And they do the western music like Roy Rogers and they’ll only do a concert so they don’t have outreach with theirs. Another one that we have is Urabe Mexicano. Casper has a Fiesta WYO on Labor Day Weekend on that Saturday and this is a group from the San Diego area, that’s a Mexican group, and it is a free concert to draw people in from the community. And so- because it is Labor Day Weekend we do not have school outreach with that because school is not in session. The other thing that would be of interest �maybe besides doing the concerts. We do a rotation of competitions. We have a new music competition that is for composers in Wyoming and they can write for up to eight performers up to twenty minutes and we help mount the concert the next year for the winner. That alternates with the one act play competition and official arts competition. And within our presenting series which is about forty to thirty-five shows a year we do championing of our local performers and state performers as well as bringing in Riders in the Sky, Tenors Unlimited from England so a wide variety. Every summer we do a music and poetry session so we include the written word by having a musician and a band and a writer for each of four week and the fifth week it is a musician and open mic for writers. And, I am the executive director of that group. Rebecca: Well, I have noticed that ArtCore does a very wide variety of things. They present a wide variety of types of music and artists which kind of characterizes ArtCore in my mind. Carolyn: And that is why it is interesting when we do surveys because we find that we have a lot of different audiences. We have people who will only come to the locals. You know they come to the Tremors and to the different ones with the local performers. And then we have the people who are really tied into dance, and we present dance every year. This next year we will have Soul Street Dance which are street dancers from Houston who are fabulous. We will have Rory Woodbury which is a modern company from Salt Lake and we will have Chicago tap Theater which includes live instrumentalists and tap dancers on stage for the concert. All of those will be doing a lot of outreach with master classes, school shows, and Soul Street even goes to the juvenile detention unit. Rebecca: Okay, that is all very enlightening. I didn't know that you guys did all that. Okay I want to jump back just quickly. You said Kelly Walsh, let’s just clarify, that is the high school on the east side of Casper. �Carolyn: Correct. Rebecca: Okay, well let’s see do you have anything to add and or- maybe I asked you this already I don’t have the question written down or crossed out. The high point of your time with the symphony. You have been playing with the symphony for- I did the math here, for more than 45 years, 46 years. Does any concert jump out at you as being the absolute most transcendent, fun, inspiring experience of your musical life? Carolyn: (laughter) Oh my, well it has been a joy to do all of them. I think the two that I told you about are probably the. You know the Visas for Life was very very special that we were able to do that and then it was a lot of fun to play in the musical- you know. I played violin in orchestra when I was in high school before my wrist wrecked up and so I had played in Camelot and Carnival and I am trying to think of what the other one was. But, 1776 is the only one I got to play percussion in and that was a lot of fun. Rebecca: Okay, is there anything else you would like us to know about your involvement with the Casper Symphony or the Wyoming Symphony? Or whatever various names it has had over the years. Carolyn: no just that it is tremendously exciting to get to be on stage and to be part of symphonic music. You know it is just- to be on the stage and be embroiled with the sweep of the sound you wish that the audience could be there with you. And it is much better now that NCHS, Natrona County High School, its stage has been redone because it has a lot better sound with the orchestra pulled out to the front. It used to be that the sound would go up into the catwalk and not go out into the people like you wish it would. So the sound is much better, but it is never the same as being in the middle of it. �Rebecca: It is interesting to hear you say that, describing what it is like to be in the middle of the sound. I know it is something I have always treasured about playing in an orchestra. So you are on the very periphery of the orchestra playing in the percussion section but you still have that experience of being immersed apparently. Carolyn: Yes, see I am lucky because they usually put me in front so I am very close to the harp and the piano and I often have similar parts. So I am very much in with that part of the orchestra. Jane Hammond and I are often side by side a lot of times and Kathy Williams on piano and then other-. You know, it is possible that the drum set might be beside me but a lot of times the snare players and gong and others like that are either beside me or in back of me. So I really do get to be part of the main part. Rebecca: Have you ever been called upon to play piano? As a percussionist in the symphony? Carolyn: Yes, there was a time when Betsy Taggart was actually the symphony pianist but she was doing a solo piece with us and so I got to cover the other parts she would have played if she were just playing the symphony. So that was fun. Rebecca: Well you have to have so many skills and know so many things to play percussion in an orchestra it seems to meCarolyn: (laughter) Rebecca: It’s not like me with the cello where all I have to do is hold the bow and move my fingers. You know that is a big job but it is only one instrument. And only one line of music, so. Carolyn: Sure, but but- what you are doing for the most part- I mean you may have a four part chord or something but generally what you are doing is reading the melody of a piano piece. Or say the left hand part if you are playing in some things if you are accompanying a woodwind instrument or something. The fact is, compared to what I read on piano or organ, the reading part �of it is very easy for me. Now, for everybody- just like I didn’t learn snare theoretically percussion people when they are coming up through school they learn all the different percussion instruments. They play cymbals, they play snare, they play bells and stuff. But I found a lot of times when the scores come to us that we use for a given concert. A bell part will have every note written in. So that says to me that it is someone that does not easily read and you know, sothe skill level of a mallet percussionist coming from piano and organ world is far greater than coming from the percussion world. And there was another fun concert in Laramie that was a celebration of- I think a concert of the opening of the Civic Center. Excuse me, I meant to say Cheyenne. It was in Cheyenne and they invited people from the different symphonies to come. So there were five of us in percussion that were going and the principal percussionist divided up parts. It was very scary for me because I was supposed to play a snare part, which I couldn’t do. But, instead of telling him I waited until I got there and then the group of percussionists were meeting and I said, ‘I don’t play this, I can’t do this.’ and somebody else said, ‘man I was really worried about a mallet part.’ So we switched and we were in great shape. Rebecca: (laughter) That is a great story. Carolyn: (laughter) And we got to play not only some separate literature but we got to play some pieces with Ballet Wyoming and that stage was big enough that they could have our symphonic group and then a screen that was projecting some images and then the dancers in front of that. So that was very cool. Rebecca: Okay, let’s back up you used the word snare. Can you define that a little better? Carolyn: Snare instrument is a drum that has some pieces of metal attached to the bottom and they can either be on or off. If they are on then it is the rattling sound you hear when people are doing any of the marches for military things or to accompany the Star Spangled Banner. Or it is �the general sound you hear with drums that are played with two sticks that just play evenly on the drum head. If you don’t have them then it just kind of thuds more like a standard drum but with the snares on it is the more rattly, higher pitched sound that everybody would know from marches and the anthem. Rebecca: Okay, let’s go back to the piano for a minute and clarify. The right hand is the hand that usually plays the tune and the left hand is- usually but not always- is that right? Carolyn: That’s right, there are pieces written to highlight your left hand or something you know but generally the right hand is more like the sopranos in a choir. It's doing the melody. Rebecca: Okay, and left hand is playing chords whether all together orCarolyn: Individual notes. Right. Rebecca: Now I want to go back to something you said about every note being written out. The implication being that if a person had a higher skill level they would just need chords indicated? Carolyn: No, it’s just a matter of- it’s just a matter of when I read piano or organ music like organ music I am reading two hands and feet. And on piano I might have all ten of my fingers busy. But generally with the mallet instruments you are playing a melody note that would be on the- it is just one note that you are reading at [a] time. So I am not reading full compositions where the piano is trying to be the full orchestra. Instead you are just reading one line. In a lot of the European scores they would write just one instrument’s notes. So just like what you have for cello. You have a single line right? Rebecca: Right. Carolyn: And that is what the mallet instruments would have for the most part. But if you look at piano music we may have four or five notes that we are playing at once. Rebecca: Right. �Carolyn: So it’s just that you have a single line that you are reading. Rebecca: Okay, I want to ask you about attitudes. You are a percussionist and I am wondering if either from your fellow musicians or from non-musicians if you have encountered a stereotype that percussionists are a little bit dim witted and that they don’t really need the same level of skill that a string player or something like that would need. Do you run into that attitude? Carolyn: I have not, the thing I have noticed about percussionists and I think we all realize is that there are a lot of people, especially people who are drummers, who are always their fingers are moving, they are always doing rhythms. You always figure they were doing that from the time they were little kids on their mom’s pots and pans in the kitchen. But when they are just sitting waiting between pieces, or something like that, they will have music going through their head and they will be doing rhythms. So I think of the drummers as kind of being engaged in and thinking about music all the time, and if I see someone doing that- out in public. I tend to think that they may be a drummer but I don’t- the only thing I have noticed is that people will kid us about being paid by the note. Rebecca: (laughter) Carolyn: Because of course we don’t have as many as the string people and so- I don’t know if you knew Leah Sprague but she played flute and then went to piccolo and she had rheumatoid arthritis and in the later years she couldn’t hold the flute. But anyway, when she was playing piccolo we did a piece and I had a triangle ding and then I had 82 measures [rest] and then I had another triangle ding and then I had a hundred and some measures and then I had another and that is what I had for the piece. I found out later, after the concert, that she was waiting for my second triangle ding to be her cue for an entrance and I said, ‘My gosh! What if I missed it?’ and she said, ‘Well you didn’t’ (laughter) you know but I could have! �Rebecca: [Inaudible] Carolyn: For sure, but so- then an example of what happened you know we just premiered a piece in March that was a suffragette piece for I am trying to remember the woman’s first name but her last name was Boyles. She did some traveling around Wyoming and she studied some history and then she did this work that we presented. I was told when we got the assignments that I didn’t have an assignment for that piece. Then it turned out that she had written the bass drum part that Ron Colter was playing so that it went immediately to a snare part and he didn’t have time to put down the bass drum mallet and pick up the snare sticks. So he let me know that they needed me for that section. The stage was crowded so if you see the recording of it you can just see my head in the back behind the bass drum because I was sitting beside the risers and right behind the bass drum. I was squishing in my shoulder as he was playing the bass drum and I was needed for exactly seven measures. But, it was loud bass drum playing fast notes and it couldn’t be covered any other way than to pull one person while the other did that… isn’t that insane. Rebecca: Mhmm, and the snare is played with wooden drum sticks. Is that right? Carolyn: That’s right, sometimes they have plastic tips but they are basically wood. Rebecca: Well, I have to tell you something that happened to me when I was at music camp at UW when I was in high school. We had a percussionist that was doing a demonstration or a performance for us or something and he asked us how many of us thought percussion didn’t take very much skill or that percussionists were second class musicians and so on. And a lot of us raised our hands. He is sitting up there with a trap set and I’m thinking maybe you should describe to the listener what is involved in a trap set. Carolyn: Okay, it has a bass drum that is controlled with your foot so you are hitting the beater on that by depressing a pedal with your foot. Then it has a snare drum like we have been talking �about that has the rattly sound and it often has a tom drum which has a non-rattle sound. That is just a general drum sound but it is higher than the bass drum that you hit with your foot and then it has cymbals. In this case the cymbals are a plate of metal that is on a stand and they are moveable; they are just hooked to the stand at one point. Then when you hit them with a drum stick they sizzle and they make a neat sound, but as opposed to the crash cymbals you would be hearing with the National Anthem and you hear snare and bass drum and cymbals all together. These are free standing so the person who is drumming the snare can lift his stick and hit the cymbal at any given beat. Frequently they will have two cymbals so you will have different sounds. So you are a one man band with being able to play the snare sound, the regular drum sounds and the cymbals. Rebecca: And the cymbals the way you are describing them, they ring until theyCarolyn: Until you stop them, that’s right. So what did this guy do with the trap set? Rebecca: Oh well he said; ‘Okay, do this with your foot’ and he showed us what he did with his foot. ‘Do this with your other foot’ and he showed us what he did with the other footCarolyn: Because you can do cymbals with your feet too. Rebecca: Yep, ‘Do this with your right hand and do this with your left hand’ and we very quickly discovered that was a lot harder than we thought it was. So kind of put us in our places. Carolyn: Excellent! And I was in a brass and percussion class at Greeley where we were learning a little bit about all the different instruments. So, we were trying out trap set and I was doing okay and the teacher was impressed until they told him I was an organ major. Rebecca: (laughter) Carolyn: At which point he said; ‘Well you should be able to have all your appendages work.’ Both: (laughter) �Rebecca: Well at least when you play organ you don’t have to play with your toes, just your two feet. Carolyn: You actually play toe and heel to play the black notes and the white notes Rebecca: Ah, so it’s basically the ball of the foot and the heel of the foot. Carolyn: Right so, we frequently wear tap shoes because they have got about an inch heel on them and that lets our ankle leverage to let us go toe-heel-toe-heel along the keys. So even our toes happen on the white keys, not just the black ones but you are basically walking along or dancing along the pedal board. Rebecca: Boy, playing an entire organ recital must require quite a lot of stamina in the legs. Carolyn: It does, it really does. You know it is funny I had a roommate at Iowa that was a theater major and we were not friends the first semester. Then she decided we should be friends, she was a very strange person but she could never understand why I would be tired after I had practiced organ for a couple hours. Until she finally went to an organ recital and then she got it. Rebecca: Yeah, I would imagine so. Carolyn: (laughter) Rebecca: Okay, is there anything else you want to tell us about involvement with the symphony. Carolyn: Um, no I just think that it’s a wonderful part of Casper that we have had such a history of music. Because they count- the City Band has played every year except the Covid year since 1888. The [Wyoming] Symphony when they count the years that we are playing, we are 70 years old from World War II. But there was a symphony that came before us but they quit for the war and they don’t count those years. So you know the people that we bring in from ArtCore are just totally amazed that we have the symphony and if they happen to be in town and they go to a symphony [concert] they are astounded by the quality of it. And they are amazed that we have �had amazing music teachers in the schools. And student ensembles [groups]. Another neat concert was when they included the string players with the symphony and we had 50 string players from the secondary schools that played in with the symphony for a couple pieces. But you know people don’t know what Casper is and then they come in and they find out what all is going on here and they are astounded. Rebecca: Yeah, that is not surprising. Okay well I really appreciate you giving your time today toCarolyn: Well I thank you forRebecca: Share your experience in the symphony. Carolyn: Well it is nice to be asked and it is very nice to visit with you and hear your stories. 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